queen versus a knight

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mikesully52

In an endgame where on player has a queen and the other player has a knight, is it possible to keep the game drawn or does the queen/king have the ability to eventually win the knight? I know there are tons of situations where the queen can capture the knight, I'm asking if there are any situations where the knight cannot be captured, indefinitely. I ask because I just now played a game with a knight (versus a queen) and couldn't see a single way for my opponent to win outright. Using the knight defensively (except when my opponent blundered and I forked his king and his queen) I was able to avoid being stuck on the first/last files/ranks and left many options available regardless of my opponents move.

peepchuy

The side with the Queen always wins, except when the opponent can immediately take the Queen, fork it, or something like that. It is not difficult, but some caution is needed to avoid knight forks. I recommend practicing it against computers.

n9531l

On the other hand, queen against two knights is generally a draw, although there are a lot of won positions. Here is one of them, in which with best play White can mate in 72 moves. With Black to play, the position is a draw.

White to play and win



jsaepuru
n9531l wrote:

On the other hand, queen against two knights is generally a draw, although there are a lot of won positions. Here is one of them, in which with best play White can mate in 72 moves.

Except that it´s over 50 moves to first capture (all positions where Queen wins a Knight end in less than 20), thus the Knights claim a draw.

TheBlunderfulPlayer

The side with the queen wins easily, unless the inferior side can immediately capture the queen or perform a fork.

woton

I find the Q vs K to be fairly complex.  There are times when a waiting move is required, and it is not obvious what the waiting move should be.  It's another of those endgames that I like to practice because it's not that simple.  Without practice, I forget the technique and either exceed 50 moves or fall victim to a knight fork.

n9531l
jsaepuru wrote:
n9531l wrote:

On the other hand, queen against two knights is generally a draw, although there are a lot of won positions. Here is one of them, in which with best play White can mate in 72 moves.

Except that it´s over 50 moves to first capture (all positions where Queen wins a Knight end in less than 20), thus the Knights claim a draw.

Not necessarily. From the USCF's Official Rules of Chess, 6th Edition:

"14F1. The game is drawn when the player on move claims a draw and demonstrates that the last 50 consecutive moves have been made by each side without any capture or pawn move. If the director wishes to allow more than 50 moves for some positions, details must be posted at the tournament before the first round."

seemanttripathi

Is it possible to win as black....
Stuck Hard at this point..

Opponent is avoiding to move towards last files or last ranks

Way-of-Pain

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