Demanding Your Opponent Resigns: Etiquette

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Skultula_0
Is it not bad etiquette to demand your opponent resign? I've had opponents in rapid games tell me to resign once they decide I have lost and get angry with me when I don't, and start belittling me. I had one opponent stall for several minutes on their own turn because I wasn't resigning. Aren't they wasting their own time doing this if they could really win so easily, not me wasting theirs? I am rated 850 and the general advice I've seen for beginners is to play games all the way through in order to learn how to play endgames, even if losing. I've found I learn a lot from this, and also that my opponents don't always know how to win a won game. I understand it would be poor etiquette for me not to resign if I were playing at a high level, but... I'm not. And neither are my opponents.
RayJam84
I think it depends on how lost your position is. For example, K vs K+Q, that should be resigned. People only have limited amount of time to play chess, so they want to get through as many games as possible. With that being said, I am actually fine if you really want to play out the lost position until checkmate. On the flip side, though, hopefully you will be OK if I start promoting pawns to knights 🤣 just so I can checkmate you with 3 knights.
GMegasDoux

No it is always bad etiquette to demand a resignation. This is why we have ways of forcing the game to a conclusion. If you agree to a game, you agree to how long it takes to reach a conclusion, whether you enjoy the process or otherwise. If it takes forever for a player to win a won position that is on them and not the player who refuses to resign. They are playing to get the best out of the game, even if it is reliant on blunder. It is just rudeness to demand a resignation.

HughManzee
RayJam84 wrote:
I think it depends on how lost your position is. For example, K vs K+Q, that should be resigned. People only have limited amount of time to play chess, so they want to get through as many games as possible. With that being said, I am actually fine if you really want to play out the lost position until checkmate. On the flip side, though, hopefully you will be OK if I start promoting pawns to knights 🤣 just so I can checkmate you with 3 knights.

At 850 there's plenty of people who will accidentally stalemate when they have K & Q vs K. I'm 1300 and have done it myself embarrassingly recently...Don't judge me...

Promoting to knights is the way.

blueemu

It is always bad etiquette to demand a resignation.

But many of our members are children, who care nothing for courtesy.

KieferSmith

The goal of chess is to checkmate your opponent. It's not for your opponent to resign. That is a secondary victory method. Demanding your opponent resigns is terrible sportsmanship, especially since it's not that hard to deliver a mate. Except apparrently, it is, because lots of times in K+Q vs. K endgames, my opponent stalemates me. I'm at the same level as you, and resigning when there are still drawing chances, even small, is a terrible blunder.

KieferSmith

Even if you're down material, you can also look for perpetual checks.

Laskersnephew
Demanding your opponent resign is extremely unsportsmanlike. Anyone who does it is a bit of a jerk—at best
Lamaev_vso

It is a BAD etiquette, demanding a player to resign, if your opponent is nearly to lose, then let them make an escape, or make them accept it, don't force them or demand them ti resign

sndeww

Asking your opponent to resign is cringe

complaining about it, on the other hand, is normal

MSteen

It is never never never OK to ask an opponent to resign. It is bad etiquette of the highest order. HOWEVER, if I'm 5 minutes in to a 15 minute game and my opponent is hopelessly lost, I feel it is incumbent upon him to either keep moving at a reasonable pace or to resign. There is little that's more frustrating than sitting there watching a still screen and waiting for the opponent who is just trying to delay the inevitable. So etiquette should govern both sides. Don't demand that your opponent resign. And don't be a jerk and just sit there with a losing position.

Janus_85

I agree man... give people space.... it really helps decrease the brain farts....

BlueHen86

I resign once I determine that my position is hopeless.

If someone demanded that I resign I would play to the end and use as much time as allowed.

Janus_85

Also... Do you guys also get these players egging you on to play.... when you are in rapid 10 min and the other guy nags you to play near bullet speed? I don't like that... Sometimes you want to overthink.... sometimes you go monkey see monkey move and then play on luck or you read the game a little... but man... come on, don't nag if I take my time to think in 15 or 30 min rapid chess.... then rather just sign up for bullet or whatever

Skultula_0
Janus_85 wrote:

Also... Do you guys also get these players egging you on to play.... when you are in rapid 10 min and the other guy nags you to play near bullet speed? I don't like that... Sometimes you want to overthink.... sometimes you go monkey see monkey move and then play on luck or you read the game a little... but man... come on, don't nag if I take my time to think in 15 or 30 min rapid chess.... then rather just sign up for bullet or whatever

YES oh my god, drives me crazy. If these people want to play bullet chess they should go play bullet chess! Starting a game means committing to the time on the clock. Obviously deliberately stalling/abandoning a game isn't cool but if I'm genuinely thinking I have the right to think for as long as I need... if I truly take TOO long then I will lose on time. One person was sending me a bunch of messages mocking me for "not being able to think fast" and proceeded to hang their queen... I crushed them and it was very satisfying. I've noticed there seem to be less people like this as I move up a bit in rank (or maybe I've just been lucky).

nklristic
Skultula_0 wrote:
Janus_85 wrote:

Also... Do you guys also get these players egging you on to play.... when you are in rapid 10 min and the other guy nags you to play near bullet speed? I don't like that... Sometimes you want to overthink.... sometimes you go monkey see monkey move and then play on luck or you read the game a little... but man... come on, don't nag if I take my time to think in 15 or 30 min rapid chess.... then rather just sign up for bullet or whatever

YES oh my god, drives me crazy. If these people want to play bullet chess they should go play bullet chess! Starting a game means committing to the time on the clock. Obviously deliberately stalling/abandoning a game isn't cool but if I'm genuinely thinking I have the right to think for as long as I need... if I truly take TOO long then I will lose on time. One person was sending me a bunch of messages mocking me for "not being able to think fast" and proceeded to hang their queen... I crushed them and it was very satisfying. I've noticed there seem to be less people like this as I move up a bit in rank (or maybe I've just been lucky).

For this reason, turning off the game chat can be useful.

igor_Teixeira

When the position is clearly lost resigning is a honorable way to show respect.If you are clearly lost and yet goes on playing only to flag or pray for a draw I see that as disrespect and not sportsmanship.Sadly many won't resign when clearly it's not possible to win

Hoffmann713
Skultula_0 ha scritto:
Is it not bad etiquette to demand your opponent resign? I've had opponents in rapid games tell me to resign once they decide I have lost and get angry with me when I don't, and start belittling me. 

Just keep playing if you feel like it, you're free to do as you want. There are good reasons both for resigning and for continuing to the end, no one can impose theirs on others as they were universal dogmas.

Radioactive7
RayJam84 wrote:
I think it depends on how lost your position is. For example, K vs K+Q, that should be resigned. People only have limited amount of time to play chess, so they want to get through as many games as possible. With that being said, I am actually fine if you really want to play out the lost position until checkmate. On the flip side, though, hopefully you will be OK if I start promoting pawns to knights 🤣 just so I can checkmate you with 3 knights.

you don't even need to resign that tbh , stalemate is always possible and I have gotten saved in those positions by not resigning

Hightider

It's etiquette TO resign, but it's NOT etiquette to DEMAND resignation.