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billyhaley18
I showed my friend my latest match pgn. He was shocked and told me what I had done was extremely rare. Heres the PGN: [Event "Computer"] [Site " Chess.com"] [Date "Sep 4, 2019"] [White "billyhaley18"] [Black "Comp"] [Result "0-1"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] [Termination "Draw by Insufficient Material"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Nc3 Bg4 4. d3 h5 5. Ng5 d5 6. Nxd5 Nd7 7. Qxg4 hxg4 8. h4 Ne5 9. Bf4 f6 10. Bxe5 fxe5 11. Nf7 Qd7 12. d4 e6 13. O-O-O exd5 14. exd5 Rh7 15. dxe5 Qc7 16. Ng5 a6 17. h5 g6 18. hxg6 Rg7 19. Nh7 Qb6 20. Nxf8 Ne7 21. Nh7 Qxg6 22. Bd3 Nf5 23. Bxf5 Qf7 24. b4 Rxh7 25. Bxh7 O-O-O 26. Rh4 Rxd5 27. Rxd5 cxb4 28. Bd3 Kc7 29. Rxg4 Qxf2 30. Rf4 Qe1+ 31. Kb2 Kb8 32. Rd8+ Ka7 33. Rxb4 b5 34. Rb3 Qxe5+ 35. Ka3 Qf4 36. Rd7+ Kb8 37. Rd8+ Ka7 38. Bg6 Qg4 39. Bf7 Qf4 40. Rb4 Qg3+ 41. Rb3 Qxg2 42. Rc3 b4+ 43. Kb2 Qe4 44. Rc7+ Qb7 45. Rxb7+ Kxb7 46. Rd7+ Kb6 47. Rd6+ Kc5 48. Rd7 Kb5 49. Bd5 Kb6 50. Bb7 Ka5 51. Kc1 Kb5 52. a3 Kc5 53. c3 b3 54. Rd5+ Kb6 55. Bc8 a5 56. c4 Kc6 57. a4 b2+ 58. Kd1 b1=R+ 59. Kd2 Rb8 60. Rxa5 Rb4 61. Be6 Kd6 62. Bg4 Rb8 63. Rb5 Rf8 64. c5+ Kc7 65. c6 Rf6 66. Kc1 Rf1+ 67. Kc2 Ra1 68. Rb1 Rxb1 69. Kxb1 Kb8 70. a5 Ka8 71. a6 Kb8 72. Be6 Kc7 73. a7 Kb6 74. a8=N+ Kc5 75. Ka1 Kd6 76. Nb6 Kxc6 77. Nc8 Kb5 78. Kb1 Kc6 79. Bc4 Kd7 80. Bb5+ Kc7 81. Be8 Kd8 82. Nd6 Kc7 83. Nf7 Kb6 84. Kc2 Ka7 85. Nd6 Kb6 86. Nc4+ Kc5 87. Nb2 Kb6 88. Na4+ Kc7 89. Bb5 Kd8 90. Ba6 Ke8 91. Nc5 Kd8 92. Ne6+ Kd7 93. Nd4 Kd6 94. Nb3 Ke5 95. Nd2 Ke6 96. Bc8+ Ke5 97. Nf3+ Ke4 98. Be6 Ke3 99. Kb3 Kf4 100. Nh2 Kg3 101. Nf1+ Kf3 102. Bd5+ Kf2 103. Nh2 Ke2 104. Bc4+ Kf2 105. Ng4+ Kg1 106. Ne3 Kf2 107. Ng4+ Kg1 108. Bd5 Kf1 109. Ne3+ Ke2 110. Bc4+ Kf2 111. Ng4+ Kg2 112. Ne3+ Kf3 113. Bd5+ Kf4 114. Ng2+ Kf5 115. Ne3+ Kg5 116. Bf7 Kh6 117. Ng4+ Kg7 118. Be6 Kg6 119. Ne5+ Kh6 120. Ng4+ Kh5 121. Nf6+ Kh4 122. Ne4 Kh5 123. Nf6+ Kg5 124. Nh7+ Kh5 125. Bh3 Kh6 126. Ng5 Kxg5 0-1
UncleHAL9000

 

kindaspongey
billyhaley18 wrote:
... 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Nc3 Bg4 4. d3 h5 5. Ng5 d5 …

Now seems like a good time to pause and consider what just happened.

 

UncleHAL9000

Abandoned his queen.

5. Bxd1 was the correct move for black.

Caesar49bc

Draw by insufficiant material is quite common. It's rare for grandmasters to have games north of 100 moves, but common for beginners since they frequently can't find a winning line or tactic in spite of boundless opportunities.

I highly reccomend players get active in the chess community and help out at a few scholastic tournaments. It's easy to becone a TD and help out on the floor. If it's a large tournanent, you might not have the credentials to make rulings, but you can get a higher level TD to rule. In large scholastic events, they're always grateful for more volounteers.

It's a good way to have fun and get a different perspective at scholastic tournaments. In the kindergarten to 3rd grade crowd, its very common for 2 players to make random moves at the endgame phase, putting each others king in check but not realizing it. But the floor has kids of all ages and ratings.

After a few minutes of both players not knowing how to finish a game, the TD declares it a draw..

billyhaley18
I mean I got KNBvK. Thats whats rare
Caesar49bc
billyhaley18 wrote:
I mean I got KNBvK. Thats whats rare

I actually had that once, in the 1990's at a USCF tournament and won the game. 

In retrospect, the only two games of that decade that were memorable was that KBN vs K win, and another game where I drew an 1800 when I was rated 1350. 

I'd be embarrassed to use the same strategy to draw an opponent over 400 points above me nowadays, by making the board so complicated, it becomes difficult for the higher rated player to find a winning line. But back then it was not only acceptable, but it was one of Bruce Pandolfini's list of chess wisdoms.

Another reason that strategy doesn't work is because online chess has made it so most chess players have seen so many complicated board positions that there is no surprise factor involved in that strategy. Players just take it in stride.

m_connors

Position shown is a draw. No need for White to resign. Request draw and computer should accept (insufficient material as per #5 above).

And yes, Bishop/Knight mates are very rare. They can be done if studied, but usually so rare not studied. I wouldn't be able to complete.

Caesar49bc
m_connors wrote:

Position shown is a draw. No need for White to resign. Request draw and computer should accept (insufficient material as per #5 above).

And yes, Bishop/Knight mates are very rare. They can be done if studied, but usually so rare not studied. I wouldn't be able to complete.

It is curious that he was playing a chess engine and the game wasn't declared a draw by the computer immediately after the knight was captured by the king.

If the OP was playing the chess.com computer, that needs to be submitted as a bug report.

zmfwy

 

AussieMatey

It's about as rare as haley comet.

destroyer8470_Inactive

I agree this event is truly rare and full of chivalry

The bishop followed the code of chivalry and didn't capture the queen but the  queen chose to give the bishop another chance to finish her off, but he still refused, so the queen took the bishop herself forcing the trade.

Then the battle contiues as the other takes as little of the other peices as they can while offering the oppenent oh so much. So far still a true battle of chivalry.

Then the queen blocks herself in front of the king sacrificing her life away

And then the pawns have a sprint and chose to evolve into a...

KNIGHT!!!

A truly chivalrus warrior to be chosen.

And then the holy bishop and knight chase the enemy all around the board but the king eventually captures the knight who had been narrowally missed the knig multiple times

Yes an extremely rare case of chivalry indeed.

An 126 move game of complete destruction

you my friend have made a game that is as bright as a gem!

 

Caesar49bc

In 40+ years of playing chess, that game I mentioned in the 90's was the only instance of me having the KNB vs K ending, not just in tournament play either.

 

Milla2016
billyhaley18 wrote:
I showed my friend my latest match pgn. He was shocked and told me what I had done was extremely rare. Heres the PGN: [Event "Computer"] [Site " Chess.com"] [Date "Sep 4, 2019"] [White "billyhaley18"] [Black "Comp"] [Result "0-1"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] [Termination "Draw by Insufficient Material"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Nc3 Bg4 4. d3 h5 5. Ng5 d5 6. Nxd5 Nd7 7. Qxg4 hxg4 8. h4 Ne5 9. Bf4 f6 10. Bxe5 fxe5 11. Nf7 Qd7 12. d4 e6 13. O-O-O exd5 14. exd5 Rh7 15. dxe5 Qc7 16. Ng5 a6 17. h5 g6 18. hxg6 Rg7 19. Nh7 Qb6 20. Nxf8 Ne7 21. Nh7 Qxg6 22. Bd3 Nf5 23. Bxf5 Qf7 24. b4 Rxh7 25. Bxh7 O-O-O 26. Rh4 Rxd5 27. Rxd5 cxb4 28. Bd3 Kc7 29. Rxg4 Qxf2 30. Rf4 Qe1+ 31. Kb2 Kb8 32. Rd8+ Ka7 33. Rxb4 b5 34. Rb3 Qxe5+ 35. Ka3 Qf4 36. Rd7+ Kb8 37. Rd8+ Ka7 38. Bg6 Qg4 39. Bf7 Qf4 40. Rb4 Qg3+ 41. Rb3 Qxg2 42. Rc3 b4+ 43. Kb2 Qe4 44. Rc7+ Qb7 45. Rxb7+ Kxb7 46. Rd7+ Kb6 47. Rd6+ Kc5 48. Rd7 Kb5 49. Bd5 Kb6 50. Bb7 Ka5 51. Kc1 Kb5 52. a3 Kc5 53. c3 b3 54. Rd5+ Kb6 55. Bc8 a5 56. c4 Kc6 57. a4 b2+ 58. Kd1 b1=R+ 59. Kd2 Rb8 60. Rxa5 Rb4 61. Be6 Kd6 62. Bg4 Rb8 63. Rb5 Rf8 64. c5+ Kc7 65. c6 Rf6 66. Kc1 Rf1+ 67. Kc2 Ra1 68. Rb1 Rxb1 69. Kxb1 Kb8 70. a5 Ka8 71. a6 Kb8 72. Be6 Kc7 73. a7 Kb6 74. a8=N+ Kc5 75. Ka1 Kd6 76. Nb6 Kxc6 77. Nc8 Kb5 78. Kb1 Kc6 79. Bc4 Kd7 80. Bb5+ Kc7 81. Be8 Kd8 82. Nd6 Kc7 83. Nf7 Kb6 84. Kc2 Ka7 85. Nd6 Kb6 86. Nc4+ Kc5 87. Nb2 Kb6 88. Na4+ Kc7 89. Bb5 Kd8 90. Ba6 Ke8 91. Nc5 Kd8 92. Ne6+ Kd7 93. Nd4 Kd6 94. Nb3 Ke5 95. Nd2 Ke6 96. Bc8+ Ke5 97. Nf3+ Ke4 98. Be6 Ke3 99. Kb3 Kf4 100. Nh2 Kg3 101. Nf1+ Kf3 102. Bd5+ Kf2 103. Nh2 Ke2 104. Bc4+ Kf2 105. Ng4+ Kg1 106. Ne3 Kf2 107. Ng4+ Kg1 108. Bd5 Kf1 109. Ne3+ Ke2 110. Bc4+ Kf2 111. Ng4+ Kg2 112. Ne3+ Kf3 113. Bd5+ Kf4 114. Ng2+ Kf5 115. Ne3+ Kg5 116. Bf7 Kh6 117. Ng4+ Kg7 118. Be6 Kg6 119. Ne5+ Kh6 120. Ng4+ Kh5 121. Nf6+ Kh4 122. Ne4 Kh5 123. Nf6+ Kg5 124. Nh7+ Kh5 125. Bh3 Kh6 126. Ng5 Kxg5 0-1

 

seems that you should've won the game. I think it's difficult to win with bishop knight but should be possible.