Getting worse instead of better

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GoatPatronus
Hello, I understand there will be ebs and flows with your rating but it feels the more effort I put into chess the worse I’m actually getting.

The most I can say at this point is my puzzles rating is improving and that I don’t get forked as much.

Other than that I’m getting absolutely crushed.

Anyone else have the two steps back and one step forward situation?
jerrylmacdonald

This is typical.  The other thing that might get you is having to unlearn things.  Imagine you're a new player and you play crazy queen openings and sac peices all over the place and you are crushing people with it.

Eventually you will hit a wall and not be able to progress.  So you say to yours self that you have to get better! 

The truth is you won't get better until you unlearn crazy openings and unsound attacks first.  Sometimes you just have to learn more sound principals and real openings. This will lower your rating as you learn but your upside rating potential will be higher.  

You will hit plateaus throughout your journey and each time will need to reinvent yourself to break through.

GoatPatronus
I just need to figure out what the unsound bits I need to unlearn now, which would fill a large book I’m sure.

I’ll keep grinding glad to hear I’m not the only one that gets worse once in a while.
SomeGuy02
I can’t offer any advice, but I can relate. I’ve bought/read several chess books, I do puzzles, but my puzzle rating bounces wildly between 900-1200. Some of the puzzles make no sense to me at all. I play through the “self-analysis” and it still doesn’t make any sense. It’s a. If reason I’ve already “cancelled” my premium chess.com membership. I foolishly purchased a year membership in November but I can’t see myself renewing. I think some people are just not meant for chess. Why play if I’m going to be a garbage 700-900 player forever. That’s not fun.
GoatPatronus
@SomeGuy02 I’ve definitely been there. I don’t need to be a GM but, improving once in a while would be nice. I haven’t read a book yet so I guess I’ll try that ha.
laurengoodkindchess

My name is Lauren Goodkind and I'm a chess teacher based in the San Francisco bay area.  

     There are many ways to get better.  If you haven't already, hiring a chess coach can help you a lot.  Reading chess books is good.  I recommend two books that might help you: 

1) 50 Poison Pieces

2) Queen For A Day: The Girl's Guide To Chess Mastery

Both books are available on Amazon.com and are endorsed by chess masters!  

I also offer a free eBook for beginners on my website too: www.ChessByLauren.com.  

Regardless, when you are playing a game, make sure you are asking questions, such as, "If I move here, is it safe?"  Avoid making silly moves, such as moving your queen to a square that your opponent's piece can capture it.  You don't want to be giving away free material for nothing!  

If you haven't done already, I recommend playing with a slow time control, such as G/30 so you have time to think.  Beginners tend to move without thinking, and that results in silly mistakes.  

  I hope that this helps.  

EdwinP2017
SomeGuy02 wrote:
I can’t offer any advice, but I can relate. I’ve bought/read several chess books, I do puzzles, but my puzzle rating bounces wildly between 900-1200. Some of the puzzles make no sense to me at all. I play through the “self-analysis” and it still doesn’t make any sense. It’s a. If reason I’ve already “cancelled” my premium chess.com membership. I foolishly purchased a year membership in November but I can’t see myself renewing. I think some people are just not meant for chess. Why play if I’m going to be a garbage 700-900 player forever. That’s not fun.

Are you joking? According to your recent games you get regularly accurancy ratings of 99,x %! Either you are Carlsen on his anonymous chess account or you cheat.

Magnus_Chase19

1. dont learn quick win gambits now - it wont get you anywhere, it will just make u worse

2. learn the basic tactics of chess then move on to advanced ones, chess.com puzzles are a bit hard, dont get discouraged

3. dont mug up all the openings, learn 1 and understand each move in that opening, later move on to other openings

4. when your opponent plays a move, ALWAYS ask, why did he move that? if he played that, what is he attacking/ what is he trying to achieve?

5. before you play a move, always think if i play this, will i achieve anything? are any of his pieces attacking my pieces?

hope this helps

GoatPatronus
Thanks @Magnus_Chase19 I’m really trying to focus on one opening to get a familiarity with the positions. But seems like I still get caught lots.
ypres1918

i have no advice,only started playing 3 weeks ago,i just like the competion,i get crushed but hey ho,not scared to fail.

Duckfest

Don't be too discouraged. If I look at your rating over time, it seems you've been steadily improving until only the last one or two weeks. 

I've checked your recent games in OpeningTree (.com), at first glance it appears you should easily be able to identify some areas for improvement. I've sent you a daily challenge, (edit) unrated. We could do some analysis together. 

korotky_trinity
GRAVYxNIPS wrote:
Hello, I understand there will be ebs and flows with your rating but it feels the more effort I put into chess the worse I’m actually getting.

The most I can say at this point is my puzzles rating is improving and that I don’t get forked as much.

Other than that I’m getting absolutely crushed.

Anyone else have the two steps back and one step forward situation?

I have a few times already.

But don't be so fixed on your rating... Chess is only a game. Try to get pleasure from it... and don't think constantly about what rating you have.

HarryMaguire-05
GRAVYxNIPS wrote:
Hello, I understand there will be ebs and flows with your rating but it feels the more effort I put into chess the worse I’m actually getting.

The most I can say at this point is my puzzles rating is improving and that I don’t get forked as much.

Other than that I’m getting absolutely crushed.

Anyone else have the two steps back and one step forward situation?

at your level, don't worry about anything. just think. WIll this move blunder immediately? If not and it looks good play it. You can also 

  1. Pick several moves before calculating
  2. When calculating, calculate more than one line
  3. Remember nobody is too hard to beat happy.png

Chess is a game its meant to be fun

fiziwig
jerrylmacdonald wrote:

This is typical.  The other thing that might get you is having to unlearn things.  Imagine you're a new player and you play crazy queen openings and sac peices all over the place and you are crushing people with it.

Eventually you will hit a wall and not be able to progress.  So you say to yours self that you have to get better! 

The truth is you won't get better until you unlearn crazy openings and unsound attacks first.  Sometimes you just have to learn more sound principals and real openings. This will lower your rating as you learn but your upside rating potential will be higher.  

You will hit plateaus throughout your journey and each time will need to reinvent yourself to break through.

I noticed today something I should have noticed much sooner. I'm a newbie playing against newbies and it really hit me today. A awful lot of the people I'm facing seem like they are in a big hurry to grab as many pieces and pawns as possible. They bring their queen out on move 2 or 3, and jump all over the board trying to "trap" and collect pieces. I used to think that these were strong, aggressive players, obviously better than me because they were tearing me apart. Then I noticed, they are not strong and aggressive, they are weak, scattered, disorganized, careless and clumsy. I found that all I had to do was to double check the safety of my pieces and pawns when making each move and just bide my time. When I play carefully, actually using the 20 min I play on the clock, they always make a really foolish blunder (or two, or three). I always end up ahead on material by 3, 5, 9, or even more points.

What happened then was I got over confident and careless myself and lost a lot of games I should have won because I was so far ahead on material.

What I finally learned is 1) Take your time on each move. 2) When somebody plays super aggressively, do not be afraid of them. Chances are they going to be making blunders all over the board. STAY SAFE and win. 3) when you get ahead on material, that's the time to really slow down and play carefully. Play like your king's life depends on it! Don't be in a hurry to win. If you want fast wins, play checkers.

vivekchaubey

I see that you play too much.You are more likely to blunder when your brain is tired.Play no more than 3-4 rapid games a day.Play blitz or bullet for fun if you want.

Reducing the no. Of games in a day helped me a bit.

66john

I feel your pain same here, I think I've improved a bit I can now see a blunder the moment I play one instead of wondering how did that happen cry.png

MarkGrubb

@fiziwig +1 and @Jerry +1 on unlearning. Something I've learned is not to press too hard for an attack or advantage unless it is justified, but instead improve my pieces, constrain my opponent's, and wait for a mistake which might be positional or tactical. I've won many games where my opponents have pressed too hard with poor coordination and planning, leaving themselves exposed to counterplay when their attack runs out. I've been guilty of the latter and had to unlearn it. Even now I occasionally get carried away and regret it afterwards, opening the position before I'm ready for example.

jerrylmacdonald

@sunny I looked at some of your games.  Play more cautiously.  It looks like your biggest problem is you want to try and chase your opponents pieces away with your pawns.  Try to fight back early on with your knights and bishops.  Keep your pawns back as either defenders or to guard landing spots in the center of the board.  When you move your pawns a lot they get doubled up, isolation, and create holes for your enemy.

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