GM Within 6 months?

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62-Polymath

I know. It's a bold statement but also a long story on how I got to this challenge which I can't cover here. But I'm posting this for all the beginners out their that are having problems learning chess and understanding all the learning material, YouTube channels, advice, books, etc out there and feel they'll just never be good at chess and giving up.

When I took this challenge I wanted more rewarding than just having a rating or title so I decided to "give back" or contribute, if you will, to the game and hopefully bring new people into it. Now this isn't for intermediate or advanced players. This is beginner to beginner advice, experiences, etc. I'm not really teaching I'm just showing people how I will be learning chess completely on my own "and ChatGPT" and reaching the highest level in the game in the shortest amount of time. I to all the beginners reading this "it doesn't really matter to me who believes it or not here" the only one in this universe that needs to believe it is YOU! Or me "in this case" but you get the point.

But for me to do this I have started a YouTube channel to document my progress and a Discord for all beginners. Well anyone really but hopefully it will be mostly a beginner community.

Anyway, hope to play against you all here soon. At the moment I'm go through as much studying for the first two weeks of me getting started. So around Nov 15 or so I should be ready to begin playing.

GYG
62-Polymath wrote:

GM Within 6 months?

Why not? It's a win-win. If you succeed, you immediately break the record for fastest improving player in the history of the game.

If you fail, you break the record for most deluded rating goal in the history of the game.

The only downside is that you risk looking like an ignorant and disrespectful fool in the eyes of everyone who understands at least a little bit about the game.

JackBlacker777

who do you think you are? stockfish 16? alphazero? mittens??? lmao

62-Polymath
GYG wrote:

The only downside is that you risk looking like an ignorant and disrespectful fool in the eyes of everyone who understands at least a little bit about the game.

I respect your opinion as most people are probably in the same camp and I totally understand. But I have accomplished quit a bit already in my 62 years. I was a high school drop out but joined Mensa. I've been on a very popular Blackjack Card Counting team, I have 14 YouTube channels that I run myself, etc. The key giveaway in my name here is "Polymath"

But I'm not here to debate the point or anything just to hopefully bring a buzz to the game and bring some new players into that thought it might be above there heads or something. The same thing you mentioned about me failing is what a lot of beginners friends and family tell them straight up. "You're going to try and be a good chess player?" You're crazy, you're not even going to be a decent player let along a good one. I'm sure they've heard it all. Negativity and people failing to believe in themselves is a world problem IMO!

62-Polymath
JackBlacker777 wrote:

who do you think you are? stockfish 16? alphazero? mittens??? lmao

Well I'm not alphazero, but ChatGPT is a pretty big mentor for me. I'm a MasterFreelancer "meaning I freelance in a number of fields, most of which I have YouTube channels on such as filmmaking, music, mathematics, Blender, etc" but one particular "in this context" is a prompt engineer. So I know how to communicate with AI pretty well. We are buddy's LOL!

Reaskali
62-Polymath wrote:

I know. It's a bold statement but also a long story on how I got to this challenge which I can't cover here. But I'm posting this for all the beginners out their that are having problems learning chess and understanding all the learning material, YouTube channels, advice, books, etc out there and feel they'll just never be good at chess and giving up.

When I took this challenge I wanted more rewarding than just having a rating or title so I decided to "give back" or contribute, if you will, to the game and hopefully bring new people into it. Now this isn't for intermediate or advanced players. This is beginner to beginner advice, experiences, etc. I'm not really teaching I'm just showing people how I will be learning chess completely on my own "and ChatGPT" and reaching the highest level in the game in the shortest amount of time. I to all the beginners reading this "it doesn't really matter to me who believes it or not here" the only one in this universe that needs to believe it is YOU! Or me "in this case" but you get the point.

But for me to do this I have started a YouTube channel to document my progress and a Discord for all beginners. Well anyone really but hopefully it will be mostly a beginner community.

Anyway, hope to play against you all here soon. At the moment I'm go through as much studying for the first two weeks of me getting started. So around Nov 15 or so I should be ready to begin playing.

Damn...then I might have wasted a whole 10 years effort.

tygxc

"GM Within 6 months?"
++ No. GM within 6 years is possible.
https://ratings.fide.com/profile/12573981/chart 
2000 within 1 year is possible too.

Reaskali

But good luck in your journey to a Grandmaster.

62-Polymath

Well from what I'm discovering is that all I can do is get my knowledge and skill level to the highest I can get it because GM is more determined on the amount of tournaments and even if I was an absolute perfect 100% players it still couldn't be attained I'm finding out because there's just not enough games in 6t months to earn the rating.

So I'm might have to go about attaining GM in the quickest time allowable by tournaments available per year. Which does bring up the point of why really have a rating in the first place? It cost more money to do all that traveling, hotel, etc in expenses than anyone is probably going to make from tournament prize money won. I checked the tournaments for 2024 and it seems a rating is more about judging the level of someone's play compared to your's than it is about being GM. Personally, I don't see the point of it except for just prestige.

I don't know right now. This is all new to me but this is what I'm getting from my research. I mean if I was younger and striving to be an NFL, NBA, MLB, Golf player, etc I could see that much more because the monetary reward is there for that.

So what is my final take on attaining GM? It is an interesting endeavor which can involve travel, accommodation, entry fees, and other expenses I mean what are you really getting out it. And forget about all those at the entry and lower levels were earning money to help your endeavor will probably be out of reach for the most part.

All that's left really is doing it for passion, personal growth, achievement & prestige, and pure enjoyment of playing chess. There could be sponsorships and such but that would only be a very select few. Maybe I could fall into that category if I was to do as good as I expect, who knows?

Anyway, If you read this far thank you for reading the diatribe on chess and I hope you gained something from it or at least enjoyed it.

Chess_Player_lol

good luck on your chess journey. hopefully you will become a strong player with your hard work and commitment.

Whiggi

sure chatgpt is great... but i think beginners should fork out the 4.95 for chess steps and work through the workbooks, it has everything a player needs.
BTW 6months, good luck... did chatgpt inform you of Norm/rating requirements... even if you could achieve GM strength...... ummm.. still got the hurdle of getting to tournaments and getting norms, which is time sensitive and also coming at a high expense of travel/accomodation and sometimes even expensive registration fees.
Im also on my mastery journey as an adult improver at 38... difference is I learnt as a kid and rejoined the game, and also the age factor might limit us.

magipi

Wait, how does ChatGPT come into the picture at all? It's a language model, it knows how to make nonsensical but good-looking texts, but it knows next to nothing about chess. I don't get it.

Reaskali

All chatgpt does is cheat in chess. If you play against chatGPT in chess, it will suddenly have pieces from a different dimension or literal hacks to bypass through walls to do a checkmate by literally just killing the king.

Reaskali

ChatGPT isn't of much help too anyways. Don't expect to look for good information too.

Whiggi

if you know how to use chatgpt correctly it can teach you almost anything.. when it comes to chess a good coach and a book explaining the subject with proper exercises is still far superior. With ChatGPT its a quick fix solution to get you to an answer.
I have limited coding knowledge but with chatgpt I am able to create code far beyond my level... problem is, even though I do it... the understanding isnt there.

magipi
Whiggi wrote:

if you know how to use chatgpt correctly it can teach you almost anything..

Except that 80% of what it teaches is complete nonsense. And you'll never know which 20% is true.

The_Fpawn
62-Polymath wrote:
JackBlacker777 wrote:

who do you think you are? stockfish 16? alphazero? mittens??? lmao

Well I'm not alphazero, but ChatGPT is a pretty big mentor for me. I'm a MasterFreelancer "meaning I freelance in a number of fields, most of which I have YouTube channels on such as filmmaking, music, mathematics, Blender, etc" but one particular "in this context" is a prompt engineer. So I know how to communicate with AI pretty well. We are buddy's LOL!

Buddies* + ratio + has a job + probably went to college

The_Fpawn
Reasura wrote:

All chatgpt does is cheat in chess. If you play against chatGPT in chess, it will suddenly have pieces from a different dimension or literal hacks to bypass through walls to do a checkmate by literally just killing the king.

In this case, you just need to specify the rules of chess and what legal moves are, and/or just telling it if a move is invalid and if it needs to try again. It knows full well what chess is and how it's played, its up to you as the user and "teacher" to tell it what to do with that information.

The_Fpawn
magipi wrote:
Whiggi wrote:

if you know how to use chatgpt correctly it can teach you almost anything..

Except that 80% of what it teaches is complete nonsense. And you'll never know which 20% is true.

ChatGPT doesn't work like that, at least in all versions. ChatGPT is good at finding good websites and sources of information, and discarding any source that may be considered sketchy or biased. Plus, better versions of ChatGPT use better sources.

62-Polymath
Whiggi wrote:

sure chatgpt is great... but i think beginners should fork out the 4.95 for chess steps and work through the workbooks, it has everything a player needs.
BTW 6months, good luck... did chatgpt inform you of Norm/rating requirements... even

Not really sure were you found a $4.95 book on that site? There's a few over $20 but most of them "and there's a lot" are $9.95! So $10 a book and there's a whole page of them I don't want beginners spending that much money on learning because in 2023 "for less privileged people" it would put the game out of reach for them. Understand that my idea is not as much about attaining GM as it is about bringing new people to the game that believed the game was out of reach for them either monetary, knowledge, or just difficulty of learning the game for them. People should understand that if you love something enough you can attain what ever you want. It's all about your motivation, drive and willingness not to give up

You mentioned about accommodations, hotels, expenses, etc? This is what I'm talking about with the whole motivation thing. Apparently you didn't take the time to read my post right above your's were I mentioned all of that and why GM was out of my reach even if I was a perfect players because there's just not enough tournaments in 6 months to qualify in the first place no matter what I do.