Is BongCloud a good opening for beginner level? (200-800)

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sohan_hajra

if you are 800 and above, you can use bongcloud. however if you are below 700, then it is advisable to play the standard openings

Arnaut10

Bongcloud is a bad opening for every rating

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I'm a chess YouTuber for beginners: https://www.youtube.com/user/chessdifference/

I agree with Araut10. Bongcloud is a horrible opening for every level.  Just focus on getting the knight and bishops out in the opening.   

brisket

I think it is a bad opening, It stalls development and since you move your king you lose your right to castle. 

Chess_Player_lol

its terrible, but the lower-rated you are the less likely you will be punished

ricorat

Hikaru beat Jeffry Xiong with it so it is actually a great opening for all levels.

ninjaswat

Play the Vienna tongue.png and there is a line in the Max Lange Attack with 5. Ke2

bla_w_gy

the bongcloud is a meme opening.  technically speaking, a horrible choice to play.

anikolay
SirMigraine wrote:

the bongcloud is a meme opening.  technically speaking, a horrible choice to play.

Technically speaking, Hikaru used it to win against Jeffery Xiong.

ninjaswat
Optimissed wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:

Play the Vienna and there is a line in the Max Lange Attack with 5. Ke2

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d4

Sorry, you're not telling the truth. That isn't possible. Also the Vienna is nothing to do with the Max Lange.

? e4 e5 Nc3 Nc6 f4 (Max Lange Attack I believe) e×f4 d4 Qh4+ (mainline) Ke2 ... I played a game with this today... I believe Magnus has also played it... 

CastawayWill

If you are Nakamura, Carlsen, So, Giri, Firouzja, Mamedyarov, Karpov, Kasparov, Naroditsky, Grischuk, Anand, MVL, or anyone titled (maybe even advanced) its fine.

anikolay
CastawayWill wrote:

If you are Nakamura, Carlsen, So, Giri, Firouzja, Mamedyarov, Karpov, Kasparov, Naroditsky, Grischuk, Anand, MVL, or anyone titled (maybe even advanced) its fine.

I don’t think you really understand my statement.

GM Hikaru Nakamura is within 100-200 rating-range between himself and GM Jeffery Xiong. So theoretically speaking, one player with any rating could produce a win against a player within the said rating range, more or less playing the Bongcloud Opening.

bla_w_gy

i guess the opening is just a segue into the middlegame, so if you don't make any critical mistakes with the bongcloud, you'll be slightly worse, but if you can play a careful middelgame you should be fine

anikolay
SirMigraine wrote:

i guess the opening is just a segue into the middlegame, so if you don't make any critical mistakes with the bongcloud, you'll be slightly worse, but if you can play a careful middelgame you should be fine

Yup, that’s correct.

bla_w_gy

unless you do this lol

2021blitzgrind

bongcloud is an extremely good opening. I recommend all levels to play it, especially against me.

tygxc

"Is BongCloud a good opening"

No.

bla_w_gy

If you play the bongcloud you have to survive by being very careful. 

lethallearner
2021blitzgrind wrote:

bongcloud is an extremely good opening. I recommend all levels to play it, especially against me.

These bongcloud opening jokes are becoming annoying day by day.