Puzzles that arise from specific openings?

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lord-cabot

An idea: Is there a way to practice typical positions that arise from specific openings? Like when practicing tactic puzzles it's all great but many of those I'll never ever get in my game. Then again when I play the same openings I get some typical tactical position and I fail to recognize it.... Does this make any sense?

Cheers!

ChessLessonChannelYt

Makes lots of sense👍

lclrrt

Yes, it does. Similar for me, too!

Deranged

Yeah this is called tactical motifs. Each opening has their own motifs.

For example, some motifs in the Sicilian are:

- Sacrificing a minor piece on b5.

- Sacrificing a minor piece on e6.

- Sacrificing a rook on h7.

jgnLpaShalat

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Thematicplayer

To answer your question, You have to study opening you want to play. Main reason why higher rated players stick to 2-3 openings, but they know in-depth theory, plans and ideas very well. You can get books like Chess Openings for Black, Explained: A Complete Repertoire by by Lev Alburt and Roman Dzindzichashvili.

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This is just an example by the way. There are short and simple caro-kann theory for black or lots of opening choices for white you can get on chessable site since they have opening trainer. Even chess.com have lot of videos on opening they all teach you how to play opening what if opponent doesn't follow then show you tricks too. 

lord-cabot
Thematicplayer wrote:

To answer your question, You have to study opening you want to play. Main reason why higher rated players stick to 2-3 openings, but they know in-depth theory, plans and ideas very well. You can get books like Chess Openings for Black, Explained: A Complete Repertoire by by Lev Alburt and Roman Dzindzichashvili.

Hope that helped  .

This is just an example by the way. There are short and simple caro-kann theory for black or lots of opening choices for white you can get on chessable site since they have opening trainer. Even chess.com have lot of videos on opening they all teach you how to play opening what if opponent doesn't follow then show you tricks too. 


Oh, so what I'm looking for is a book on an opening basically? That makes sense... I do play specific openings so I know what to look for - London, QG, Scandi, Caro, the English recently....

Thanks for the reply!

I still think having these as puzzles somewhere would be great... So far I seem to have to put it together myself. 

@everyoneelse Thanks for your input guys! 

alexwiththeglasses
I agree that tactics puzzles are not a very efficient way to understand what’s going on during the opening. And you can pretty much lose the game or be way behind coming out of the opening.
General opening principles are no help.
There is a traditional way to avoid this, and seeing tactics is a corollary, a natural result. I’m currently trying to write a few things down about it, too.
So if you’d like to bounce around a few ideas & specific methods to see if they help go ahead & send me a friend request. We can either go over a game together or have a more improvised session about the opening.
In any case your observation is valid & best chess wishes!
FizzyBand
Thematicplayer wrote:

To answer your question, You have to study opening you want to play. Main reason why higher rated players stick to 2-3 openings, but they know in-depth theory, plans and ideas very well. You can get books like Chess Openings for Black, Explained: A Complete Repertoire by by Lev Alburt and Roman Dzindzichashvili.

Hope that helped  .

This is just an example by the way. There are short and simple caro-kann theory for black or lots of opening choices for white you can get on chessable site since they have opening trainer. Even chess.com have lot of videos on opening they all teach you how to play opening what if opponent doesn't follow then show you tricks too. 

Yeah I have that book. It's good, I'd say for 1400-1800(maybe up to 2000). I used it for a while but moved on to GM Rep.

3acapo

I dont get it. One user asks for puzzles to practice and learn patterns. The feedback is that this is covered in books. Sure, but are there puzzles to practice openings?

foo-bar-baz-sym

Short answer:
try this
https://lichess.org/training/openings
went searching for basically same reason as OP said. Puzzles are heavily geared toward checkmates imo and ones that aren't are opponent is in bad position that would have to already be playing great to reach.
I was hoping there was something like this: random position from opening or middle game where guess move and points from result. like:
+5 brilliant
+4 book/best
+3 great
+2 excellent
+1 good
+0 inaccuracy 
-1 mistake
-2 missed win
-3 blunder
I haven't found this but lichess.org has an "Puzzles by openings" section.