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theChessMoke

I have been playing for almost five months now and I am seeing no improvement in my play and i'm kind of at a loss for where to go from here. I had another account before this one where I constantly lost to cheese openings and plummeted to 550. Through lessons I learnt how to avoid cheese openings and I started this account so my elo would be fresh but have been stuck at 700-800 ever since.

I watch chess lessons from GM's and IM's, I have tried lessons and puzzles and I've looked through the study plan directory for beginners. For all that effort and study I still can't hit and stay at 800 elo and most of my games seem to come down to a King plus one piece vs a king unless they're a stomp.

I keep randomly getting put against 1200 elo players, I get questionable opponents who suck for the first 20 moves then drastically improve after they start spending two minutes per move (probably inputting moves into a bot?). I seem to hit a wall every month where I just ping pong between 700 and 800 elo.

At this point i'm debating just forcing myself to quit playing (which I don't want to do) for the sake of my mental health. I enjoy competitive games and thought that chess could be fun, but after this long with no meaningful progress and no idea how to get past the wall I have hit i'm starting to think it's a waste of time and effort. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can try to break out of this rut I have been in for months now?

Anixton_likes_kids

Have a break 

FitnessBen

Dear Project_Invictus,

I am a certified, full-time chess coach and International Master, so I have seen it and tried it all.
There are so many ways to get better and I know it can be overwhelming.
You can learn from free videos on youtube, there are books at your disposal that can all help, but they are not tailored to your needs.

One of the most important things you can do is to analyze your games! You must learn from your mistakes! That is a priority. You can't really move on to a new, different topic and learn new ideas if you still make the same mistakes over and over again!

This is where a chess coach comes into the picture. A good coach can show you how to study, what to study, gives you the material YOU need. Naturally, it takes time to use everything in practice, but if you are relentless and persistent you will succeed!happy.png
You should learn the main principles in every area of the game (opening, middlegame, endgame).  Don't focus on only one part! You should improve your tactical vision as well as it is part of all areas!  
This how I built my training program for my students. We discuss more than one topic during a lesson so it's always interesting and they can improve constantly. I give homework too and the right tools to make practicing enjoyable and effective!happy.png
Don't worry about your rating and the ups and downs! Just keep on playing and practicing!

I hope this helps.happy.png  I wish you good games and 100+ extra ratingshappy.png

Chuck639

I would tighten up the ELO ratings of your opponents under custom and that’ll stop the roller coaster ride.

May be go +50 and -100. 1200 vs 700 player is too steep of a challenge considering what knowledge and experience separates both; I am speaking from personal experience.

I think it is best to play opponents within your skill set if you want to steadily improve at the beginning.

Galaxy

This kinda happend to me so I went to a chess club near where I live and when I made a mistake the person I would play against would always point out my mistake and how to do better to next time. This has 100% helped me while still improving and having more fun. 

MarkGrubb

As suggested. Look at the rating range. You can set it in the challenges. I play -25/+200. The advice I had was playing opponents up to 200 points higher will help improvement. Its a challenging game and you will learn and lose, but you are more likely to understand the reasons why. If your opponents rating is too high, you might not know why you lost so struggle to learn from it.

theChessMoke

I didn't even know I could set elo ranges, thanks for the tip. I might try and look for a chess discord to find people who I can learn with.

 

MarkGrubb

Just to add. In your rating range, losses are often due to undefended pieces and not seeing simple one move threats. Your opponent then gets a material advantage, goes up an extra piece say, and is able to use this extra force to gain further advantage and win. Suggest John Bartholomew's chess Fundamentals Series on you tube. The first video is on undefended pieces. The solution is to work on coordination and general board vision. Doing puzzles regularly, and solving them in your head first, helps. It's a skill that strengthens with regular practice and time (months).

theChessMoke

I think the thing I struggle with the most is the midgame. Openings are just memorization and endgames are straightforward unless you really mess up. But mid game I just seem to end up in a stalemate that eventually ends with a ton of trades.

MSteen

You might also want to consider playing the bots for a while. They don't affect your rating, you can take as long as you want, and you can choose varying levels of assistance. Start with the lowest rated bots (about 250) and work your way up. No pressure, no stress, and you don't have to imagine them gloating when they win.

Then have the computer analyze EVERY GAME you play and go over the analysis several times until you truly understand what went wrong (or right).

 

IMKeto
Project_Invictus wrote:

I have been playing for almost five months now and I am seeing no improvement in my play and i'm kind of at a loss for where to go from here. I had another account before this one where I constantly lost to cheese openings and plummeted to 550. Through lessons I learnt how to avoid cheese openings and I started this account so my elo would be fresh but have been stuck at 700-800 ever since.

I watch chess lessons from GM's and IM's, I have tried lessons and puzzles and I've looked through the study plan directory for beginners. For all that effort and study I still can't hit and stay at 800 elo and most of my games seem to come down to a King plus one piece vs a king unless they're a stomp.

I keep randomly getting put against 1200 elo players, I get questionable opponents who suck for the first 20 moves then drastically improve after they start spending two minutes per move (probably inputting moves into a bot?). I seem to hit a wall every month where I just ping pong between 700 and 800 elo.

At this point i'm debating just forcing myself to quit playing (which I don't want to do) for the sake of my mental health. I enjoy competitive games and thought that chess could be fun, but after this long with no meaningful progress and no idea how to get past the wall I have hit i'm starting to think it's a waste of time and effort. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can try to break out of this rut I have been in for months now?

1. " I constantly lost to cheese openings..." Openings have nothing to do with the result of your games.  Blunder and missed tactics do. 

2.  All you're playing is speed chess.  You're not going to improve by playing fast. 

Every time this question is asked its the same 2 issues.  Beginners that think openings are determining  the result of the games, and a steady diet of speed chess. 

You want to improve?  Slow down, and quit wasting your time on openings.  At your level no one knows theory, and no one needs theory.  Work on not blundering, and study tactics.

And before you say "I dont play speed chess."  But when you play G20, blast out 16 moves, lose, and still have 16:40 left?  You are playing speed chess.

https://www.chess.com/game/live/15217399281?username=project_invictus

 

wornaki

I don't disagree with the advice about openings, but I'll say something... As you're reaching 1K in blitz you'd do good in learning the plans associated with the openings you choose.

IMKeto
wornaki wrote:

I don't disagree with the advice about openings, but I'll say something... As you're reaching 1K in blitz you'd do good in learning the plans associated with the openings you choose.

The basic plans, and ideas,  the pawn structure, and piece placement Yes.  Memorizing lines?  No.

MarkGrubb

Naturally this doesn't include the Giuoco piano Greco gambit. Those lines are a lot of fun. 😁

XOsportyspiceXO
MarkGrubb wrote:

As suggested. Look at the rating range. You can set it in the challenges. I play -25/+200. The advice I had was playing opponents up to 200 points higher will help improvement. Its a challenging game and you will learn and lose, but you are more likely to understand the reasons why. If your opponents rating is too high, you might not know why you lost so struggle to learn from it.

mine was set to +400 lol i didnt realize until i got paired with a 1600, although its nice to gain 18 elo from 1 win, i adjusted mine back to -25 + 150

Grimm_Stone

I would play lots of rapid games and use a opening like the london system, just study the main line.

dikmasterson

If you're not having fun, take a break. Stop being obsessed about your rating and enjoy the experience.

You might want to play Chinese chess for a while, and appreciate the similarities in the mechanics of play. It's more streamlined, more restricted/structured, and no need to memorize many openings.

No stalemate (if opponent can't make another legal move, you win), knights can be blocked.

AngryNaartjie

Go to ChessBrah's Twitch channel. In their VOD section, they have a series called "Habits" something. Watch it, all of it!

Aman created an account and stabilised it at 400. Then we created rules for what people at that level need to concentrate on and played as of he was a player of that level. It works really well.

His levels were roughly 400-700, 700-1100, 1100-1500 and 1500+

RussBell

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

ShuckleSquad13

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