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sajadm475

hi, I have played chess when I was a kid by I've started learning this month my puzzle rating is 1600 and I'm solving them easily and I think with the knowledge that I have now I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850 and I cant brings it up can you help me with that? 

RussBell

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell

sajadm475

thanks, I'll look to them

jg777chess
Hi there!

Solving puzzles is a great way to train your mind to find tactical ideas in positions and learn various tactical patterns over time. However, there is more to chess than just that, and that’s likely why you’re game rating is much lower. To progress you need to develop an understanding of the fundamentals of chess play, such as how to opening and develop your pieces initially, how to secure your king, how to generate piece activity and exert control over the board, and know pawn play and why certain pawn moves and structures are good or bad. Additionally learning to read the position and develop candidate moves is a necessary skill too! If you’d like help developing or learn those things I’d be happy to meet up sometime and work on that with you. Have fun with chess and keep working on it!

-Jordan
sajadm475
jg777chess wrote:
Hi there!

Solving puzzles is a great way to train your mind to find tactical ideas in positions and learn various tactical patterns over time. However, there is more to chess than just that, and that’s likely why you’re game rating is much lower. To progress you need to develop an understanding of the fundamentals of chess play, such as how to opening and develop your pieces initially, how to secure your king, how to generate piece activity and exert control over the board, and know pawn play and why certain pawn moves and structures are good or bad. Additionally learning to read the position and develop candidate moves is a necessary skill too! If you’d like help developing or learn those things I’d be happy to meet up sometime and work on that with you. Have fun with chess and keep working on it!

-Jordan

thanks so if I study the lessons and practice them is enough? 

eric0022
sajadm475 wrote:

hi, I have played chess when I was a kid by I've started learning this month my puzzle rating is 1600 and I'm solving them easily and I think with the knowledge that I have now I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850 and I cant brings it up can you help me with that? 

 

There is that kind of "inertia" when it comes to this. Improvements in games do not always come with improvements in tactical vision, just as objects do not always respond to sudden movements (eg a box in a stationary car which does not move immediately when the car moves).

 

Give yourself time.

nklristic

Here is what I did to improve:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/the-beginners-tale-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

I hope it will be useful for you as well.

By the way, I see that you have diamond membership. So on top of what I wrote in that guide (which was written for those who don't put any money into chess), you should do some lessons here and check out video material (though some lessons have video material along with them as well). On 700 - 800 level, there is a lot of room for improvement for sure, but it will depend on how much time and effort are you willing to invest.

In any case, I wish you best of luck in your chess improvement. 

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a respected  chess coach and chess YouTuber who helps beginners out : 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP5SPSG_sWSYPjqJYMNwL_Q

Here’s some ideas to help you get better.  

-I’ll be happy to analyze one of your chess games for free for my YouTube channel, since I love to help beginners out.  Share one of your games with me!  This is a great way to get better!  

-I recommend two books for you: “50 Poison Pieces”   and “Queen For A Day: The Girl’s Guide To Chess Mastery.”  Both books are available on Amazon.com.  Both books are endorsed by chess masters!  

-If you are serious about chess, I highly recommend you hiring a chess coach to help you.  

-Also consider all checks and captures on your side and also your opponent’s side. Always as, “If I move here, where is my opponent going to move?”. Do this for every single move!  

-Play with a slow time control, such as G/30 so you have plenty of time to think before every move. 

I also offer 500 two-choice puzzles on my website: https://www.chessbylauren.com/two-choice-puzzles.php

 

I hope this helps!  

sajadm475
eric0022 wrote:
sajadm475 wrote:

hi, I have played chess when I was a kid by I've started learning this month my puzzle rating is 1600 and I'm solving them easily and I think with the knowledge that I have now I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850 and I cant brings it up can you help me with that? 

 

There is that kind of "inertia" when it comes to this. Improvements in games do not always come with improvements in tactical vision, just as objects do not always respond to sudden movements (eg a box in a stationary car which does not move immediately when the car moves).

 

Give yourself time.

thanks for your advice

sajadm475
nklristic wrote:

Here is what I did to improve:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/the-beginners-tale-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

I hope it will be useful for you as well.

By the way, I see that you have diamond membership. So on top of what I wrote in that guide (which was written for those who don't put any money into chess), you should do some lessons here and check out video material (though some lessons have video material along with them as well). On 700 - 800 level, there is a lot of room for improvement for sure, but it will depend on how much time and effort are you willing to invest.

In any case, I wish you best of luck in your chess improvement. 

thanks I'm trying to be better and yeah I'm doing those lessons and analyzing my games and trying to learn from my mistakes 

sajadm475
laurengoodkindchess wrote:

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a respected  chess coach and chess YouTuber who helps beginners out : 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP5SPSG_sWSYPjqJYMNwL_Q

Here’s some ideas to help you get better.  

-I’ll be happy to analyze one of your chess games for free for my YouTube channel, since I love to help beginners out.  Share one of your games with me!  This is a great way to get better!  

-I recommend two books for you: “50 Poison Pieces”   and “Queen For A Day: The Girl’s Guide To Chess Mastery.”  Both books are available on Amazon.com.  Both books are endorsed by chess masters!  

-If you are serious about chess, I highly recommend you hiring a chess coach to help you.  

-Also consider all checks and captures on your side and also your opponent’s side. Always as, “If I move here, where is my opponent going to move?”. Do this for every single move!  

-Play with a slow time control, such as G/30 so you have plenty of time to think before every move. 

I also offer 500 two-choice puzzles on my website: https://www.chessbylauren.com/two-choice-puzzles.php

 

I hope this helps!  

thanks for your advices I subscribed to your channel and I don't think my games that have lots of blunders in them worth a video and also I'm not really thinks for every move I think about the important moves or I might also checks for pins and forks  but not as you said . and I'll try to think more for my moves 

nklristic
sajadm475 wrote:
nklristic wrote:

Here is what I did to improve:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/the-beginners-tale-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

I hope it will be useful for you as well.

By the way, I see that you have diamond membership. So on top of what I wrote in that guide (which was written for those who don't put any money into chess), you should do some lessons here and check out video material (though some lessons have video material along with them as well). On 700 - 800 level, there is a lot of room for improvement for sure, but it will depend on how much time and effort are you willing to invest.

In any case, I wish you best of luck in your chess improvement. 

thanks I'm trying to be better and yeah I'm doing those lessons and analyzing my games and trying to learn from my mistakes 

Oh, and whenever you feel there is something that you do not understand during the analysis of your completed games, consider opening a new topic in Analysis sub forum. Someone might be able to help you out.

sajadm475
nklristic wrote:

Here is what I did to improve:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/the-beginners-tale-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

I hope it will be useful for you as well.

By the way, I see that you have diamond membership. So on top of what I wrote in that guide (which was written for those who don't put any money into chess), you should do some lessons here and check out video material (though some lessons have video material along with them as well). On 700 - 800 level, there is a lot of room for improvement for sure, but it will depend on how much time and effort are you willing to invest.

In any case, I wish you best of luck in your chess improvement. 

and thanks again for your article it was really helpful

nklristic

You're welcome. I am glad you like it. happy.png

RAU4ever
sajadm475 wrote:

hi, I have played chess when I was a kid by I've started learning this month my puzzle rating is 1600 and I'm solving them easily and I think with the knowledge that I have now I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850 and I cant brings it up can you help me with that? 

There's one thing that I keep seeing and that is that players can get up to a high puzzle rating, but they can't seem to find much easier tactical shots in their own games. Seeing a mate in 2 is great, but not giving away a piece in one move during your games will make your rating go up. I think the problem is that you're missing a very important part of your tactical training. 

When you're learning about tactics, there are actually 3 parts that you need to learn. First there is the type of tactics that there are. If you've never seen a pin or how you can take advantage of it, how could you find these in your own games? Secondly there's pattern recognition. By doing a lot of puzzles you'll start to spot certain piece configurations quicker that might help you remember a similar tactic, which will hopefully get your spider senses tingling that there is a tactic in the position. Thirdly, and frequently overlooked, there are the solving strategies that you can use for tactics. I would argue that these solving strategies are actually what you're missing and why you're not finding the tactics in your own games. 

The most important solving strategy in chess is to look for forcing moves. If you attack a pawn, they'll move it, guard it or put something in between your piece and that pawn. Simply attacking something is not a tactic. But if you attack their pawn while also giving a check, they need to solve the check first. Tactics are almost always forcing moves. 

There are a few different kinds of forcing moves. First there is the check. It's the most forcing move there is, because they need to stop the check. Then there's a mate threat. It's still very forcing, but not completely, cause they could mate you first or if they put you in check, you also can't deliver mate. After check and mate, there are attacks on undefended pieces and pieces that are worth more than the piece that is attacking them (a pawn that attacks a rook for example). The higher the value of the piece, the more forcing it is. Captures are also forcing moves, and again the capture is more forcing the higher the value of their piece. Apart from the undefended piece there's also the insufficiently defended piece. This is the case where my knight attacks your bishop, but your knight defends your bishop. We can trade, but I can't win a piece. However, if I attack that piece even once more, you will be in danger of losing a piece and will have to do something about it. 

When you're doing a chess puzzle, you can use these forcing moves to try and find the answer. Ask yourself: with which moves can I give a check? With which moves can I threaten mate? Which pieces that are undefended can I attack? Which pieces of a higher value can I attack? Which pieces can I take? All of these moves are forcing moves and are possibly the solution to the problem. These are the moves you need to calculate. 

During a game, at every move, you need to do the same thing. Your first thing should be to look at your forcing moves and see if they win you anything. If they don't, you try and play a normal move. But before you play the normal move you've chosen, you need to again look for forcing moves, but now for your opponent. Which forcing moves will they have if you make the normal move you've just chosen? Will they be able to win anything? In fact, it's not a bad idea to start with looking for forcing moves by your opponent when they've just played a move. Thinking about your opponent's plans is a very important part of chess too. But you definitely need to do it again before you play your move. 

The better you get, the more difficult your calculations will become. You'll see that you need to look 2 moves deep and then maybe 3 moves deep. The trick to do this is also to limit yourself to forcing moves. So you'll learn to think: 'I do this, you do that, now which forcing moves will I have in that position?' But no matter how strong you'll get, your forcing moves will still always be the most important moves that you'll always need to check out. 

What I would suggest, is that you continue with your puzzles training. But instead of looking for the answer, try working methodically by first trying to find all of your forcing moves and then by calculating them. This will help train the thought process and it will also start to give you a sense of which forcing moves are more likely to do anything compared to other forcing moves. In the setting of a game with a time constraint, you'll want to learn how to be able to quickly discard some forcing moves as completely ridiculous so as to not lose too much time. In general, a move that is check or a move that brings their king out for another check next move are almost always valuable forcing moves to really consider. A move that can just be taken multiple ways usually is just garbage. 

Then, while your practicing this thought process during your tactical training, you'll also want to try and implement this in your rapid games. At first that might take a lot of time. You'll get quicker at it. At first you might lose games, maybe on time or on position, because you're playing with a completely new thought process. You'll get the points back. Focus on finding your forcing moves and seeing if they can help you win things. Focus on finding your opponent's forcing moves and seeing if they can just win your own pieces. After the game is over, take a quick look over the game to the points where you've won or lost pieces: what made you win/lose the piece? It's almost always a forcing move...! Did you see it during your game? If not, realize you didn't spot the forcing move and just try and do better next game. 

Sometimes chess is like playing the piano: practice makes better and there's no substitute for practicing. But sometimes chess is also just about getting pointed in the right direction. At your level a coach can point you in the right direction, but the hard work practicing is something you'll have to work on for yourself. That's why I wouldn't recommend a coach at this time.

And I think there are better books out there than Lauren's. I like the stepmethod a lot for tactical training and I'm not affiliated with them whatsoever. 

adellejade
Ever complexly winning the game and the app calls stalemate?
sajadm475
RAU4ever wrote:
sajadm475 wrote:

hi, I have played chess when I was a kid by I've started learning this month my puzzle rating is 1600 and I'm solving them easily and I think with the knowledge that I have now I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850 and I cant brings it up can you help me with that? 

There's one thing that I keep seeing and that is that players can get up to a high puzzle rating, but they can't seem to find much easier tactical shots in their own games. Seeing a mate in 2 is great, but not giving away a piece in one move during your games will make your rating go up. I think the problem is that you're missing a very important part of your tactical training. 

When you're learning about tactics, there are actually 3 parts that you need to learn. First there is the type of tactics that there are. If you've never seen a pin or how you can take advantage of it, how could you find these in your own games? Secondly there's pattern recognition. By doing a lot of puzzles you'll start to spot certain piece configurations quicker that might help you remember a similar tactic, which will hopefully get your spider senses tingling that there is a tactic in the position. Thirdly, and frequently overlooked, there are the solving strategies that you can use for tactics. I would argue that these solving strategies are actually what you're missing and why you're not finding the tactics in your own games. 

The most important solving strategy in chess is to look for forcing moves. If you attack a pawn, they'll move it, guard it or put something in between your piece and that pawn. Simply attacking something is not a tactic. But if you attack their pawn while also giving a check, they need to solve the check first. Tactics are almost always forcing moves. 

There are a few different kinds of forcing moves. First there is the check. It's the most forcing move there is, because they need to stop the check. Then there's a mate threat. It's still very forcing, but not completely, cause they could mate you first or if they put you in check, you also can't deliver mate. After check and mate, there are attacks on undefended pieces and pieces that are worth more than the piece that is attacking them (a pawn that attacks a rook for example). The higher the value of the piece, the more forcing it is. Captures are also forcing moves, and again the capture is more forcing the higher the value of their piece. Apart from the undefended piece there's also the insufficiently defended piece. This is the case where my knight attacks your bishop, but your knight defends your bishop. We can trade, but I can't win a piece. However, if I attack that piece even once more, you will be in danger of losing a piece and will have to do something about it. 

When you're doing a chess puzzle, you can use these forcing moves to try and find the answer. Ask yourself: with which moves can I give a check? With which moves can I threaten mate? Which pieces that are undefended can I attack? Which pieces of a higher value can I attack? Which pieces can I take? All of these moves are forcing moves and are possibly the solution to the problem. These are the moves you need to calculate. 

During a game, at every move, you need to do the same thing. Your first thing should be to look at your forcing moves and see if they win you anything. If they don't, you try and play a normal move. But before you play the normal move you've chosen, you need to again look for forcing moves, but now for your opponent. Which forcing moves will they have if you make the normal move you've just chosen? Will they be able to win anything? In fact, it's not a bad idea to start with looking for forcing moves by your opponent when they've just played a move. Thinking about your opponent's plans is a very important part of chess too. But you definitely need to do it again before you play your move. 

The better you get, the more difficult your calculations will become. You'll see that you need to look 2 moves deep and then maybe 3 moves deep. The trick to do this is also to limit yourself to forcing moves. So you'll learn to think: 'I do this, you do that, now which forcing moves will I have in that position?' But no matter how strong you'll get, your forcing moves will still always be the most important moves that you'll always need to check out. 

What I would suggest, is that you continue with your puzzles training. But instead of looking for the answer, try working methodically by first trying to find all of your forcing moves and then by calculating them. This will help train the thought process and it will also start to give you a sense of which forcing moves are more likely to do anything compared to other forcing moves. In the setting of a game with a time constraint, you'll want to learn how to be able to quickly discard some forcing moves as completely ridiculous so as to not lose too much time. In general, a move that is check or a move that brings their king out for another check next move are almost always valuable forcing moves to really consider. A move that can just be taken multiple ways usually is just garbage. 

Then, while your practicing this thought process during your tactical training, you'll also want to try and implement this in your rapid games. At first that might take a lot of time. You'll get quicker at it. At first you might lose games, maybe on time or on position, because you're playing with a completely new thought process. You'll get the points back. Focus on finding your forcing moves and seeing if they can help you win things. Focus on finding your opponent's forcing moves and seeing if they can just win your own pieces. After the game is over, take a quick look over the game to the points where you've won or lost pieces: what made you win/lose the piece? It's almost always a forcing move...! Did you see it during your game? If not, realize you didn't spot the forcing move and just try and do better next game. 

Sometimes chess is like playing the piano: practice makes better and there's no substitute for practicing. But sometimes chess is also just about getting pointed in the right direction. At your level a coach can point you in the right direction, but the hard work practicing is something you'll have to work on for yourself. That's why I wouldn't recommend a coach at this time.

And I think there are better books out there than Lauren's. I like the stepmethod a lot for tactical training and I'm not affiliated with them whatsoever. 

thanks a lot for your time  I will do my best and consider your advice for every move thank you again 

nklristic
adellejade wrote:
Ever complexly winning the game and the app calls stalemate?

Stalemate is the rule of chess and it is not a win. If you are reffering to your game with icesantana, it is indeed a draw by stalemate. 

Stalemate happens when a player has no legal moves on the board and their king is not in check.

Checkmate occurs when a player has no legal moves on the board, and their king is in check.

That is the major difference between the two. In that game you've left your opponent only with his king and you didn't check that king while leaving no safe squares for it. 

chess_pls-teach-me

Im still a begginer so please give me some tips ty

magipi
sajadm475 wrote:

I can reach even 1800 or 2000 in puzzles but my rapid rating is really bad I have tucked in 750 to 850

This is completely normal Puzzle rating can easily be 1000+ compared to your real rating, there's nothing unusual in that.

One advice: don't play bullet. Bullet is terrible if you want to improve. Play rapid or some slow blitz (like 5+2).