Which pro chess player is like Beth Harmon

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WoodenShieldPog69

i watched queens gambit on netdflix and it was awesome i love beth harmon lol shes is so epic and is my fave chess player (even though shes not real lol) but which chess player is like beth harmon i want to support her and watch her win the world championships in chess?????????

nklristic

She was loosely based on Bobby Fischer and Paul Morphy. As for female chess players, the best of all time is certainly Judit Polgar as she was in top 10 in the world for some time and participated in 1 Candidates tournament. Today, the best female chess player is easily Hou Yifan, currently the only female chess player in top 100.

WoodenShieldPog69

why would they base her off some people knowone has heard of lol and why men? has there not been a womens world champ???? why not???

 

if hou yifan is best woman she shoul;d play best man for world champ and if shje is like harmon she should win!!

nklristic

Ok, I get that you are joking but I will say this much. Hou Yifan is playing against men all the time. That is why she is in the top 100. 



RorschachTest1

im pretty sure beth harmon was based off of pokimane grin.png

jetoba
nklristic wrote:

Ok, I get that you are joking but I will say this much. Hou Yifan is playing against men all the time. That is why she is in the top 100. 



Her rating of 2658 is almost 200 less than (#1) Magnus Carlson and ties her for 85th in the world for active players.  At lower rating levels a 200-point difference means the higher rating will take about 75% of the games (3 wins for each loss and 1 win for each draw) but it seems like that winning margin requires a smaller rating spread at the higher levels.

PS  Judit Polgar has a 2675 rating (17 points higher than Hou Yifan) but she has been inactive in FIDE rated play for six years and she never opted to play for the Women's World Championship.  A match between Judit and Hou would hinge on how close Judit's strength is to her inactive rating.  6 years is a lot of time to get rusty so I'd figure Hou would have the edge.

WoodenShieldPog69

im not joking, women are 50% of ppopulation of earth and chess is all about brains so the best woman should be as good as best man, why is it not, is it because chess is sexist against women?

IpswichMatt
WoodenShieldPog69 wrote:

im not joking, women are 50% of ppopulation of earth and chess is all about brains so the best woman should be as good as best man, why is it not, is it because chess is sexist against women?

No. It's because fewer women play chess than men.

Obviously.

WoodenShieldPog69

and why do they play less then men>? its because of sexism in chess

jetoba
WoodenShieldPog69 wrote:

im not joking, women are 50% of ppopulation of earth and chess is all about brains so the best woman should be as good as best man, why is it not, is it because chess is sexist against women?

Having spoken with a number of female players, the general agreement is not that chess is sexist, but rather that peer pressure makes it difficult for females older than 10 to get involved without becoming socially suspect.  From what I've seen at most community clubs and open tournaments the vast majority of players (men and women) are as friendly with female players as they are with male players, but there is a big drop-off in female participation when reaching 10 years old (in the US the numbers are about 99% of the high school age tournament players being male).  When a reasonably well liked female high school player neutralizes the peer pressure and plays on board one then I've seen that player's school have just as many female players as male - and the strength of the other female players was roughly the same as the strength of the male players (at one four round fixed-board match tournament that was seen as a tune-up for the state tournament a few weeks later, a school fielded two teams - one all male and one all female - with the male team going 1-3 and the female team going 2-2 for a good result when splitting their squad while other schools stayed with one full strength team.

If the percentage of female participation was similar to male participation I'd figure the average strength of each gender would also be similar.

nklristic
jetoba wrote:
nklristic wrote:

Ok, I get that you are joking but I will say this much. Hou Yifan is playing against men all the time. That is why she is in the top 100. 



Her rating of 2658 is almost 200 less than (#1) Magnus Carlson and ties her for 85th in the world for active players.  At lower rating levels a 200-point difference means the higher rating will take about 75% of the games (3 wins for each loss and 1 win for each draw) but it seems like that winning margin requires a smaller rating spread at the higher levels.

PS  Judit Polgar has a 2675 rating (17 points higher than Hou Yifan) but she has been inactive in FIDE rated play for six years and she never opted to play for the Women's World Championship.  A match between Judit and Hou would hinge on how close Judit's strength is to her inactive rating.  6 years is a lot of time to get rusty so I'd figure Hou would have the edge.

As far as I know the point difference just says what are the chance of winning. 1800 should have the same chances to win against 1600 as 2700 super GM has against 2500 rated GM. 

I know that Hou Yifan is around that rating you've stated. As for Polgar, she is inactive as you say. At her peak however she was slightly below 2750 which was enough for top 10 in the world then (she was world number 8).

nklristic
WoodenShieldPog69 wrote:

im not joking, women are 50% of ppopulation of earth and chess is all about brains so the best woman should be as good as best man, why is it not, is it because chess is sexist against women?

I thought that you were joking, because you've said that no one has ever heard of Bobby Fischer and Paul Morphy. As you have the account since 2012. here so you must have know at least a bit about chess history, I thought that was almost impossible. But it seems that I have been mistaken.

As for females, things might change in the future. For now, only Judit Polgar was a true super GM. If more and more female chess players start to play the game seriously, there might be someone like her or even stronger in the future. At present, that is sadly not the case.