Why is the F7 square considered weak?

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Yumeko2
For example, in the Italian game tutorial the narrator says that the F7 square in this situation is weak and is under attack by the white bishop. 

daxypoo
it is weak because the king is the only piece protecting it
Yumeko2
daxypoo wrote:
it is weak because the king is the only piece protecting it

I see...

So the idea is: if you have two attacking pieces working in tandem protecting each other - the king cannot capture the bishop if it attacks F7?

daxypoo
exactly; all kinds of tactical operations come into play if (in this case) black isnt careful
NilsIngemar

If the black e pawn were on e6, instead of e5, then f7 would not be weak because it has a pawn protecting it against the bishop attack.

The e5 move weakened the pawn on f7 because pawns cannot move backwards.

nklristic

One of the reasons why castling early and following opening principles are all good ideas for improving players.

TheBlunderPunisher
NilsIngemar wrote:

If the black e pawn were on e6, instead of e5, then f7 would not be weak because it has a pawn protecting it against the bishop attack.

The e5 move weakened the pawn on f7 because pawns cannot move backwards.

e6 wouldn't do much to protect against a queen on h5.

NilsIngemar

You fear a queen on h5? 

 

True weak players can get caught by an early queen on h5, but most decent players would love to see white play an early h5.

TheBlunderPunisher

Ofc I don't fear a queen on h5, but my point still stands that e6 is not a response to Qh5

NilsIngemar

 

NilsIngemar
TheBlunderPunisher wrote:

Ofc I don't fear a queen on h5, but my point still stands that e6 is not a response to Qh5

What threat is there with just a queen on h5?

TheBlunderPunisher

That's different. Should I rephrase that by saying that e6 is not a good move after Qh5 has been played?

Also, add a Ng5 to the equation and I hope you must agree that e6 would do nothing to protect f7 now.

NilsIngemar
TheBlunderPunisher wrote:

That's different. Should I rephrase that by saying that e6 is not a good move after Qh5 has been played?

Also, add a Ng5 to the equation and I hope you must agree that e6 would do nothing to protect f7 now.

It would be a horrible move if black has a knight on f6.

TheBlunderPunisher

A knight on f6 would, again, do nothing if white was to move and had a queen on h5 and knight on g5. Ofc Qh5 is horrible, especially after Nf6, but once it's played, e6 is not a response. That was my point all along.

Don't attack with a straw man argument again pls.

NilsIngemar
TheBlunderPunisher wrote:

A knight on f6 would, again, do nothing if white was to move and had a queen on h5 and knight on g5. Ofc Qh5 is horrible, especially after Nf6, but once it's played, e6 is not a response. That was my point all along.

Don't attack with a straw man argument again pls.

I will tell you what. Show me the opening that you are talking about.

NilsIngemar

That is what I thought.

TheBlunderPunisher

I was offline. Got better stuff to do than to argue with a newbie and stranger over a simple opening principle. Going to bed now. Cya tomorrow

NilsIngemar

That is what I thought. Unless you blow your opening, queen h5 is no threat.

MarkGrubb

f2 is also weak for the same reasons. Google the Traxler Counter Attack to see some ideas for Black. It is a line in the Italian game.

Anonymous_Dragon

It's considered weak because it's weak

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