Athens & Sparta

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artfizz

Does anyone else see incongruities in Chess Spartans' (chess-spartans) approach - or is it just me? For instance, in ancient Sparta, women did not participate in the actual fighting. Yet I am reliably informed that there are women members of that group!

Athens (chess-athenians), on the other hand, had a much more egalitarian society - though with fewer movie stars!

MainStreet

This is the global Chess Spartans. :))

I joined the Chess Spartans hours ago.

Do you belong to one of these two groups?

Ibracadabra1

haha yep we are global Wink

btw women in sparta were much more 'free' then the ones in Athens, they could participate in politics, etc...

rooboy166

sorry for the limited knowledge, but I love 300 the movie. One of the best of all time! 

RyanMK

My school's mascot is the spartans.

artfizz
rooboy166 wrote: sorry for the limited knowledge, but I love 300 the movie. One of the best of all time! 

I haven't seen the movie myself, but membership of Chess Athenians (chess-athenians) is growing fastest among the demographic that hated it!

artfizz
RyanMK wrote: My school's mascot is the spartans.

 I hope your school doesn't have any comfy chairs.

artfizz
bamboozel wrote: ... btw women in sparta were much more 'free' then the ones in Athens, they could participate in politics, etc...

"In Athens, silence was a mark of breeding, but Spartan girls were positively lippy."

MainStreet

And Artfizz was one of the gods. :))

artfizz
MainStreet wrote: And Artfizz was one of the gods. :))

"How the mighty have fallen!"

Rather more appropriate to paint MainStreet as the Delphic Oracle - on the basis of his prognostications ...

  1. A student better than the teacher? True. Mainstreet better than Gonnosuke? Not in this life! :)) But you may call that a "stretchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhed goal".
  2. "Five true friends, A treasure."
  3. "While it is still good weather, clean the drainpipes."

(http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/a-tally-of-database-users--non-users)

artfizz
bamboozel wrote: btw women in sparta were much more 'free' then the ones in Athens, they could participate in politics, etc...

Not presuming to tell you how to run Sparta but ... they set the bar for women pretty high in the old days:

Spartan dances were famous for their vitality. In one particularly athletic version, women had to jump up and drum their buttocks with their heels as many times as possible. It was incredibly difficult, but most importantly for the ancients, it revealed a large amount of naked thigh. This is probably where Spartan girls earned their nickname: 'thigh-flashers.'

artfizz

The Chess Athenians are now the filling in a triple-decker Spartan sandwich - between Chess Spartans and spartan chess players (with the Benicia Spartans coming up on the outside track). Fragmentation of Sparta, though lamentable, is a necessary prelude to complete collapse.

streetmansd

Spartan government was a strange beast....

Spartan government had elements of a monarchy, an aristocracy, an oligarchy, a democracy, a republic and the 1950s TV game show “Queen for a Day”.

For details see the article written in conjunction with developing Spartan Chess: Spartan Government Article.