What if the starting position were centrally symmetric?

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macer75

Basically, how it is sometimes set up incorrectly by beginners:

How would the game be different? Would white's first move advantage be more or less pronounced?

Bishop_g5

Well, in this case I believe white with 1.d4 is winning. The blacks king side become more difficult to defend. White enjoy more space were the c file becomes weak! I though so, perhaps I am wrong.

SHRDLU

I'd like to give it a try. Fischerandom anyone?

SHRDLU

Oh never mind. This position isn't allowed in Chess960 either.

MuhammadAreez10

A lot of my classmates set up the board like that. I think white's first move initiative would be much more evident in a position like that. However, launching an attack against the black king would take much longer as the white queen is not on the same-coloured square as the black king.

ChessPatzer987
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

A lot of my classmates set up the board like that. I think white's first move initiative would be much more evident in a position like that. However, launching an attack against the black king would take much longer as the white queen is not on the same-coloured square as the black king.

Exactly. In chess, ...f6 is usually a bad move for Black because it terribly weakens the kingside. Now, it won't.

MuhammadAreez10

And c6 isn't going to be a bad move here. Whereas f6 in the original position weakens your position.

evert823

Is castling allowed for black?

macer75
evertVB wrote:

Is castling allowed for black?

For the purposes of the discussion, let's assume that black can castle to b8 or f8 - everything is rotated 180 degrees from white's position.

macer75
poptom wrote:

The chess engine will give 22(+0.36)

So, white is ahead by +0.36, according to the engine? Then I guess the position isn't all that bad for black, since the engine most likely thought that black couldn't castle (because under normal chess rules, he can't). So if we allow black to castle, then white's advantage is even smaller than that.