1 high accuracy game; can you get banned?

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Sea_TurtIe

i was thinking, can you get banned if you have one high accuracy game.

if the computer that looks over your game thinks your cheating regardless that you are or not are you just labeled as ¨cheater¨ and banned?

ChessGodOn

I think that not working like this

SoupSailor
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

i was thinking, can you get banned if you have one high accuracy game.

if the computer that looks over your game thinks your cheating regardless that you are or not are you just labeled as ¨cheater¨ and banned?

No, chess.com has a sophisticated system that only bans real cheaters.

Sea_TurtIe

sadly there is evidence against that

Sea_TurtIe

ninjaswat

No, they don’t use chess.com’s accuracy system for cheating evaluations anyways haha

I’ve had plenty of decently high accuracy games, am I banned yet ? tongue.png

Sea_TurtIe

Sea_TurtIe

he played ONE GAME

blueemu

I've played lots of high accuracy games.

You get banned if there's a very solid statistical correlation between your moves and engine moves.

Sea_TurtIe

yeah but this dude played like a human and only played ONE GAME, why is he banned for fair play?

paper_llama

The 1% to 99% thing is something chess.com came up with called CAPS (no idea what it stands for).

Chess.com has said many times that CAPS is not part of their cheat detection.

And since even very low rated players can get "perfect" games (usually short games, or games where one side gives away all their pieces) it would be silly to ban people for high accuracy.

SlourpyPlorypy

One lucky game won't get you banned.

paper_llama
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

yeah but this dude played like a human and only played ONE GAME, why is he banned for fair play?

I had one guy cheat against me in a daily game... so I chose lines that were as crazy and weird as possible... because if my opponent was playing engine moves in a crazy position I figured that'd get them banned...

And I was right, they were banned in less than 24 hours, and as far as I could tell I was the only person they cheated against, lol.

paper_llama
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

he played ONE GAME

Good job to chess.com.

There may be other things that trigger a "fair play" closure like having two accounts play against each other, but maybe the game matched a specific cheating tool, or like I was saying, had a high matchup in a complex position.

Now if only they could catch all of the obvious cheaters so quickly tongue.png

paper_llama
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

this dude played like a human

lol

You're blind.

blueemu

Yeah... I think if he has multiple accounts (a violation that will get the accounts closed, but not for "Fair Play") and cheats with any one of them, they all get closed for "Fair Play".

AFAIK.

Six_Pack_Of_Flabs

I'd honestly rather have people accidentally be banned then cheaters not get banned, and then add a process to get your account back online if you can prove you're not a cheater.

paper_llama
Six_Pack_Of_Flabs wrote:

I'd honestly rather have people accidentally be banned then cheaters not get banned, and then add a process to get your account back online if you can prove you're not a cheater.

Conventional wisdom is that it's worse to punish an innocent person than let a guilty person go free.

In criminal justice there's the added harm of, if you convict the wrong person, you're simultaneously letting a criminal go free. That doesn't quite apply to online chess cheating, but anyway, false positives are bad for business.

chickenflinger17

will i get banned because of my 97% accuracy game i just had? (at 700 elo)

blueemu
Zinc_Man wrote:
blueemu wrote:

I've played lots of high accuracy games.

You get banned if there's a very solid statistical correlation between your moves and engine moves.

But still just a one game isn’t a very good indicator of cheating. You need something more.

Correct.

One game doesn't provide enough data points for confidence.