brilliant move -- is this rather a blunder?

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Mmiruuuu

Hi

Can you please share opinion on why this move (black knight f6) is considered brilliant? I am wondering if I am unable to see maybe some future successful steps that would be supported by this move.

I consider it is a blunder because white can take now the bishop on h6.

Many thanks!



Onlysane1

I'd say it's something like this:

Queen takes Bishop. You play Ng4. This theatens mate with Nf2. If the queen or rook defends the f pawn, you can bring you queen in as another attacker. Then, if the other white piece defends, bring in your rook to pile it on.

So basically, white can't take that (supposedly) hanging bishop because it would set them up for a mating threat. If I'm looking at it right, of course.

bigD521
Onlysane1 wrote:

I'd say it's something like this:

Queen takes Bishop. You play Ng4. This theatens mate with Nf2. If the queen or rook defends the f pawn, you can bring you queen in as another attacker. Then, if the other white piece defends, bring in your rook to pile it on.

So basically, white can't take that (supposedly) hanging bishop because it would set them up for a mating threat. If I'm looking at it right, of course.

Though I believe it is about developing, pressure on the e4 pawn, and opening up the back rank for the rook, you are correct in that white cannot capture the bishop. If Qxh6 then as you say Ng4. Now white has a choice of being mated or losing his queen. The only square that the queen cannot be captured on is h3, but then it is mate.

Mmiruuuu

Wow, very nice. This makes so much sense now happy.png It would have been brilliant indeed for black to mate like this. Many thanks for clarifying !!!

Ilampozhil25

heres a board

the second comment overcomplicates it

you dont need any "extra attackers"

you are winning the queen at worst and checkmating at best

h96an
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

heres a board

the second comment overcomplicates it

you dont need any "extra attackers"

you are winning the queen at worst and checkmating at best

 

 

he can go qh4?

Ilampozhil25
h96an wrote:
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

heres a board

the second comment overcomplicates it

you dont need any "extra attackers"

you are winning the queen at worst and checkmating at best

 

 

he can go qh4?

i literally showed that?

5hriy4

So why isn't it considered a best move instead? How does the computer decide what's great, brilliant or best?

Laskersnephew
5hriy4 wrote:

So why isn't it considered a best move instead? How does the computer decide what's great, brilliant or best?

This is why it makes no sense worrying if some computer algorithm thinks your move is "brilliant," "best." or "super-colossal!" None of that matters. It's all arbitrary computer nonsense.!

On the other hand, if the computer suggests a move that it thinks is best, and it looks like a blunder to you, this is a learning opportunity for you. When it comes to tactcs, the computer is virtually never wrong--you are. So spend some time trying to figure out why the computer's move works. You'll learn something!

jetoba

I get the feeling that a brilliant move requires making a sacrifice.  I had a recent game with a brilliant move because I sacrificed a knight (K+N+P+P vs K+B) to be able to force either the b pawn or the f pawn through (one gets taken while the other queens and it become K+Q vs K+B).  It worked exactly as I had planned but I'd gotten so caught up in the brilliancy that I totally missed a knight fork that simply won the bishop for one of my pawns (my opponent transposed two moves and the fork was valid because of the transposition). If I'd seen the fork it would have been a much simpler K+N+Q vs K ending and nothing would have been considered brilliant.