.
Are "Brilliant moves" in computer analysis just any decent sacrifice now?
Sort:
Aug 21, 2023
0
#263
ArthurEZiegler wrote:
Brilliant moves are rare, but out of the 87 games I played I have 8 brilliant moves! Interesting that some players rated much higher and have more games played may have only a single brilliant move. Perhaps because I play Daily chess where I have time to analyse and look for tricky moves.
it is because when you're lower rated, any piece sacrifice that puts you in a winning posistion is a brilliant move. example: i am up 4 queens and give up a queen for a pawn. that sacrifice has no follow up, but i am still winning. That would probably be a brilliant move if i was 100, but if i was 2800 elo, it would probably be a mistake.
Nov 20, 2023
0
#264
Ok Ik I have a pretty low elo compared to some, but I don’t find brilliant moves to be rare, I get one sometimes once a day, most of the time 2 times a month but it’s normally only a knight sac
Nov 20, 2023
0
#265
I don't know because this move is a 'decent sacrifice' but not classified as brilliant
Nov 20, 2023
0
#266
Spr_chess_intermediate wrote:
I don't know because this move is a 'decent sacrifice' but not classified as brilliant
Off topic but may someone please tech me how to make your chess games like that I’ve been wanting to know because links imo are stupid
Nov 20, 2023
0
#267
GrubbyViper382 a écrit :
Spr_chess_intermediate wrote:
I don't know because this move is a 'decent sacrifice' but not classified as brilliant
Off topic but may someone please tech me how to make your chess games like that I’ve been wanting to know because links imo are stupid
Grind in lichess.org puzzles and practice on lichess.org....
Hi everyone, I've been following the discussion on Chess.com about how rare 'brilliant moves' are in computer analysis. It's fascinating to see the debate on what constitutes a brilliant move in the eyes of advanced chess algorithms.
Nov 21, 2023
0
#270
Spr_chess_intermediate wrote:
I don't know because this move is a 'decent sacrifice' but not classified as brilliant
It's not a sacrifice because you would be completely winning without it.
Here is the current definition:
Brilliant (!!) moves and Great Moves are always the best or nearly best move in the position, but are also special in some way. We replaced the old Brilliant algorithm with a simpler definition: a Brilliant move is when you find a good piece sacrifice. There are some other conditions, like you should not be in a bad position after a Brilliant move and you should not be completely winning even if you had not found the move. Also, we are more generous in defining a piece sacrifice for newer players, compared with those who are higher rated.
/ I think you were still completely winning if you had played Nxf4, for example.
Nov 21, 2023
0
#271
justbefair a écrit :
Spr_chess_intermediate wrote:
I don't know because this move is a 'decent sacrifice' but not classified as brilliant
It's not a sacrifice because you would be completely winning without it.
Here is the current definition:
Brilliant (!!) moves and Great Moves are always the best or nearly best move in the position, but are also special in some way. We replaced the old Brilliant algorithm with a simpler definition: a Brilliant move is when you find a good piece sacrifice. There are some other conditions, like you should not be in a bad position after a Brilliant move and you should not be completely winning even if you had not found the move. Also, we are more generous in defining a piece sacrifice for newer players, compared with those who are higher rated.
/ I think you were still completely winning if you had played Nxf4, for example.
How to explain this then?...
Dec 23, 2023
0
#273
True, if a sacrifice is the engine's primary choice its brilliant
Dec 23, 2023
0
#274
my first brilliant was a king move which was the on the top 3 lines of stockfish depth 16 lol
Dec 24, 2023
0
#275
GMMOHAMEDKM a écrit :
[Event "Vs. Computer"] [Site "Chess.com"] [Date "2023-12-24"] [White "Intermediate"] [Black "GMMOHAMEDKM"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "1200"] [BlackElo "873"] [TimeControl "-"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "3B3k/8/6Q1/8/4r3/P7/KP6/7r b - - 0 1"] [Termination "Draw by stalemate"] 1... Ra1+ 2. Kxa1 Re1+ 3. Ka2 Ra1+ 4. Kb3 Rxa3+ 5. Kc4 Ra4+ 6. b4 Rxb4+ 7. Kc5 Rc4+ 8. Kb6 Rb4+ 9. Kc5 Rb5+ 10. Kc4 Rc5+ 11. Kb4 Rc4+ 12. Kb5 Rb4+ 13. Ka6 Ra4+ 14. Kb5 Rb4+ 15. Kc6 Rb6+ 16. Kxb6 1/2-1/2
[There is actually a mistake by White]
Apparently a move being considered brilliant or not here depends on the rating of the player.
For a very low rated player all moves that do not hang material would be brilliant here.
RandomKaczka wrote:
I haven't got a single brilliant move ever before
me too
I got my first Brilliant Move (that I know of) today, it was a bishop sacrifice that lead to a me winning a rook after! (So I had 3+ material advantage)
I got a checkmate brilliant-great move combo with a queen and bishop