How to use and learn from a chess-engine analysis?

Sort:
Simendo

Hey folks. I hope i posted this topic at the right place.

I have some questions, and maybe they are asked before, but i just have to get som help and tips:)

I am planning to start to study more chess, and starting to analyse my games more.

I have put some of my games in a chess engine before, and analyzed them. I get the concept of + .31 and -.43 and that stuff. At least i know what it mean.

My actual question for you guys is how to use the results from analyses for my own best. How can these analysed games improve my chess-game and chess wisdom, and how do i learn from them? I also notices that all analyses have alternative combinations to some moves. How do i use these to learn something?

I have the used chess.com`s chess analysis sometimes, but i also have Chessmaster Grandmaster edition. What should i use, and wich preferences should i use on chessmasters analysis?

Hope that you all understand what i am asking for, despite my bad english.

DrawMaster

Simendo,

Certainly no need to apologize for your English. Our Norwegian would be far worse.Smile

Here's what I do with my analysis engine - Fritz8:

a) First, it tells me which move (mine or my opponent's) was the last 'book' move. This is valuable in helping to learn one's openings, of course. But it also helps by identifying how our opponents may be going wrong, and hence leading to ideas on how to take advantage of that.

b) Secondly, the blunder detection from the analysis engine shows me which tactical ideas I am missing or my opponents are missing. Although I don't always do this, I will sometimes make a puzzle out of any tactics I have missed. This allows me to study exactly those kinds of tactics that I MYSELF am missing, so it pinpoints MY tactical weaknesses.

c) Thirdly, I will look for GM games that went as far as the book analysis went. Then I look over one or more of these for ideas that I could try when I play this line again.

d) Lastly, if I don't like where this line led me, I can look at the analysis engine's alternatives or even new book lines that go elsewhere leading to positions I might like more.

Just some ideas. Hope they help.

Good luck,

DrawMaster

Cleptomania
DrawMaster wrote:

........

b) Secondly, the blunder detection from the analysis engine shows me which tactical ideas I am missing or my opponents are missing. Although I don't always do this, I will sometimes make a puzzle out of any tactics I have missed. This allows me to study exactly those kinds of tactics that I MYSELF am missing, so it pinpoints MY tactical weaknesses.


In my opinion, this idea is best for your playing level, providing that your rating is an accurate indicator of your strength.  I think you should keep it simple, because there are endless ways to spend (and waste) your time.  In my opinion, at your level, improving your tactics is the simplest and most rewarding way to proceed.  You can use any number of tactics trainers, chess.com's, chess tactics server, (chessmaster, I think), ct-art, and others, to practice and improve your tactics skill.  Then use your engine to find your worst tactical mistakes (especially ones that lose more than 1 point of assessment value).  This provides excellent feedback on your progress as well as insight to personal weaknesses.  Then you can make it your goal to reduce the number of those serious errors in your next game.  At your level, you will get the fastest improvement by learning how not to lose (compared to winning brilliantly).

Good luck!

Simendo

Thank you guys. I will try out some of your tips, and see how it works out:) Appriciate it:)

Dorianmode53

I am in a losing  streak this month.  My mind is lazyI have reached +1100  but am  probably usually 1050.  now I'm -1000. Have a problem  with mental (and  physical) laziness  lately.  I  should perhaps play 2  games a  day  maximum - or less... But spend  mow  time  being  present and  looking over  the  games  afterwards.. It is  annoying

 

Laskersnephew

The first thing you must remember when using an engine to analyze you games is that small (less than at least 1.00)  differences in valuation should and must be ignored. None of your games are going to be won or lost because you or your opponent made a move that was 0.55 less than the engine's choice.

Below master level, games are won and lost because of big mistakes. So you need to learn how to avoid making them and to spot when your opponent makes one. The engine is great at pointing out tactical errors and pointing out tactical opportunities that you didn't even know existed. This is what you should concentrate on

magipi
Laskersnephew wrote:

The first thing you must remember when using an engine (,,,)

Did you reply to the guy who asked the question 12 years ago?

Or to the other guy who complained about something entirely different? (The latter is probably a spambot).

Laskersnephew

Not the first time I've given advice in an outdated thread! I have to learn to check the dates. Good advice anyway

TwoMove

Inexperienced players are best advised to not use software at all, and to develop their own thinking and how to do move by move analysis. Look at older annotated games from GM's were the ideas are simpler and practise tactics. Play longer games were have time to think, and if can't resist checking these with software, just look for big jumps in evaluation were missing a tactical idea. 

HaoTranQuang

yes

 

Summer_Dog123