Mate in 50...are you for real?

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vacation4me

I admit that I am enjoying most of the improvements of V3.  I like the ranking of moves (Excellent to What were you thinking) in the analysis.  I just wrapped up playing an unrated game.  When I ran the analysis, I couldn’t help but laugh at the message after my move 54..Be2: “INACCURACY (MATE IN 50) Missed Mate.  Checkmate after hxg4+.”   Come on, how am I supposed to find a mate in 50.  Here is the game up to move 55:

Diakonia

For an engine its easy. for us...not so much.

stevie331

I like that the engine couldn't be bothered to show you the actual 50 moves maybe it thought after the first 20 or so moves that the last 35 were obvious....

Pulpofeira

It is an engine. It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear.

ArtNJ

Chess is completely solved with 7 or fewer pieces on the board.  The solutions are called the tablebases.  If an engine has the tablebases, it can instantly tell you crazy stuff like this.  I had a mate in 23 via analysis in a position outside the tablebases -- *that* surprised me quite a bit.  

Syko-p

On a side note, that was a really daring game with blatantly superfluous sacs all throughout by both players, white mainly.

zeitnotakrobat

Very strange. How can the engine say it is mate in 50? In fact after hxg4 Kxg4 it is mate in 14 according to tablebase.

nimzomalaysian

SF says that it's mate in 14, the computers here are broken.

vacation4me
M3RR0DY wrote:

On a side note, that was a really daring game with blatantly superfluous sacs all throughout by both players, white mainly.

 

I think white likes to play dangerously.  As black, I returned the favor by making random novelty moves.

vacation4me
zeitnotakrobat wrote:

Very strange. How can the engine say it is mate in 50? In fact after hxg4 Kxg4 it is mate in 14 according to tablebase.

 

I think chess.com only listed the first couple of moves towards the mate in 50.  If I couldn't find the mate in 14 earlier, there is no way that I was going to find the mate in 50.

vickalan

That is funny, you missed a mate in 50 so your move was inaccurate!!

If I'm correct when the engine ranks your moves black text means your move was excellent (and gray is good, blue inaccurate, orange mistake, red blunder), so even though the computer saw a 50-move mate and you didn't your play was still excellent!

Playdane

Pulpofeira wrote:

It is an engine. It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear.

And it absolutely will not stop... until you are mate.

MrOrcaDood

Well, you are only 1500 rating, so 2 bishops vs lone king is just coming into your range...

MrOrcaDood

And BTW i have seen a mate in 67 on the chess.com engine, but luckily my opponent let me mate him quicker.

vacation4me
vickalan wrote:

That is funny, you missed a mate in 50 so your move was inaccurate!!

If I'm correct when the engine ranks your moves black text means your move was excellent (and gray is good, blue inaccurate, orange mistake, red blunder), so even though the computer saw a 50-move mate and you didn't your play was still excellent!

Thank you, Vickalan, for your vote of confidence in saying that my play was excellent.  I do like the new analysis feature..eventhough it might be addressed for someone that is a bit higher than I.

vacation4me
orcawhale5123 wrote:

Well, you are only 1500 rating, so 2 bishops vs lone king is just coming into your range...

Ha, don't be fooled by inflated 1450 rating. I've been (un)fortunate enough to have won some games by my opponent timing out.

vacation4me
orcawhale5123 wrote:

And BTW i have seen a mate in 67 on the chess.com engine, but luckily my opponent let me mate him quicker.

Of course, you saw the 67 moves.

BronsteinPawn

It is just saying that exchanging the pawns to get to the bishop endgame quicker TO MATE was better.

BronsteinPawn

*was quicker* way to end the pain.

TyrannusVerticalis

Letting the chess.com Stockfish analyze a game, my opponent lost a minor piece and it was named "mistake".   If I blow a knight, I call it a blunder.