In openings, especially with black, it might be good to anticipate moves your opponent may make, like threats to your pieces. play moves that can protect whatever you intend to play, like for example you should have played Nc6 first then Nf6.
please help an amateur! 10 move lost game analysis
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Try e6 next time.
instead of?
I am not a *GOOD* player at all. But I would go 3...d5, attacking the bishop.
e6 instead of Nf6. It opens up lines for the bishop and queen and prepares a claim of the center with d5
5... Nxe5 is really good, imho, but after 6. Bd5 you might go 6...e6, threatening the bishop
Jan 12, 2009
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Alright, the sicilian is a tough opening to play, but can be very rewarding. 2. Bc4 is not seen at the higher levels, but at the lower levels on chess.com it is quite often played. I usually play Nc6 first then Nf6 and if possible e6 then d5 equalizing in the center. Here are my thoughts:
3... Ng8: extremely passive, better probably would have been d5.
5...Nxe5! correct, winning a pawn, ending his threats and gaining the upper hand.
6...e6: looks much easier to play, avoids complications and allows you to develop a big center. It also allows your opponent to go wrong with a bishop retreat where you win his knight. After 7. Nf3 Ng6 8. Bb3 d5 you have a dominating presence in the center. (your move is perfectly playable though)
8...f6: weakens your kingside, generally you want to keep your kingside pawns (f, g, h) unmoved if that is where you plan on castling. Maybe 8...e6 9. d3 h6 would be a better way to give the knight the boot.
9...gxf6??? exf6 and Nxf6 would have kept your edge, this ends the game.
It seems like you could benefit by thinking of your move, and then analyzing your opponents possible captures, checks and attacks. This will help you avoid blunders such as your 9th move.
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fabulous comments! thank you all very much!
panton: i think you are absolutely right and believe it or not i tryed to comment that when i posted the game but i had kind of a hard time with all the commenting and i think some of my comments got deleted/put in the wrong place
bondiggity: awsome comments, yes the Ng8 is indeed pretty god awful, i dont think i considered attacking the bishop and i would say you and panton are correct with that move. in regards to 6... e6 i agree as stated above. i think i would have to agree with 8...e6. again, awsome analysis!
When you consider a move, you must consider your opponent's response.
2...Nf6? - "Developing with threat" - That's a great concept, but did you consider how White would respond? 3.e5 is troublesome for you. I would prefer 2...Nc6 (developing) or 2...e6 (blunting your opponent's bishop).
3... Ng8- Clearly your opponent is better, but it's not the end of the world.
4...Nc6 - "Can't remember my thoughts at this point." - You remembered to develop your pieces. Good thinking. :)
5.Ng5 - "realized what he was threatening" - Very good! Always look at your opponents CHECKS and CAPTURES. 5.Bxf7# is worth contemplating.
5...Nxe5! - "thought it was a great one, have i already made a dire mistake before now?" - No, this is a a great move. You win a pawn, protect f7, protect f3, and if 6.f4 Bxc4. A wonderful multi-purpose move.
6.Bd5 - Now White is threatening 7.f4 and if you move your knight 8.Bxf7#.
6...Nf6 - I dig this. Developing a piece and parrying the threat.
7.f4 - "hmm, didnt think about this one" - Oh?! That's troubling. f4 has been the key threat the past few moves. You do need to pay more attention to your opponent. Your knight is protecting f7 so attacking it was an obvious plan.
7...Nxd5 8.fxe5 - "of course" - yes... you're doing fine.
8...f6!? - Oh no! You moved your f-pawn and you say you lost in ten moves? I see a Fool's Mate coming up, eg, 9.exf6 gxf6 10.Qh5#. Check out these lessons: The Double Freddie , Explosion on f7 . There's really nothing wrong with 8...f6 here as long as you're wary of such mates. Eg, 8...f6 9.exf6 Nxf6 is fine.
9... gxf6?? - "obviously the biggest mistake of the game..." Well, not realizing f4 was coming came pretty close. You kinda lucked out there.
10.Qh5# - The last three moves as I predicted. ;)
This happens to most people at some point. Read over those lessons I pointed you to to learn more about the f-pawns, and always consider what will be your opponent's reply when you make a move. Good luck!
wow forests, not only did you write in my opinion a masterfully written analysis but you made me laugh my butt off. lol nice one!
I like 2. ...e6 after Bc4, just seems to make the bishop look silly. Moreover, every rule of thumb about never moving a piece twice in the opening,preferably developing knights 1st, castling promptly, and every other old addage of chess wisdom needs to be checked tactically without dogma.You gotta play chess from move 1.
I play this opening by myself with black. 2. Bc4 is a bad move, because you can block him with 2. ...e6 and attack him afterwards with a6 and b5. I just played a game with that:
But Sicilian is a very complex opening. Perhaps you should better give the French Opening ( 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5) It is good defense with good counterchances!
Or Caro-Cann 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 a try. It is a very solid opening and opening desasters not so probably
Youngdude wrote:
Try e6 next time.
instead of c5. Sicilian have too many variatons, and it is disrutptive and leads to very unblanced and sharp positions. I love french so i would recomend e6. I love your thinking of mastering one opening first and good, better then learn many and little to know about them. This is something for debating, and some people would not agree with me but that is what I believe is the right thing to do. On the other hand, this is corespondence chess, so you have lots of time to find the best move. When I started playing I didn't pay too much atention on whay my opp is going to play next. When I changed that and start looking on what my opp is going to play next my rating went up. Use analize board, and when you play move, flip board and try to guess next move of your opp. Believe me, that saved lots of my games. And if you are not familiar with chess principles, like bad and good Bishops, pawn structure etc, try google about it.
Jan 13, 2009
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you seem to have a good mind set to the game! Ideas are extremely important and you have good thoughts looking into the middle/end game. Improve on little things like KNOWING AN OPENING WELL will help you not lose or get a big disadvantage early! Its simply learning off stuff or trying book material and finding which best suits your style or which you prefer.
Keep it up dude 
hello everyone i have been playing for a while and decided to kind of take it up as a serious thing this christmas break and i would absolutely LOVE some constructive feedback from *GOOD* players. i hope i get lots of help and will post many more interesting games if so!
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Leo