...to draw or not to draw...?

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M_M_

OFFER A DRAW OR CONTINUE?? (for white)

Jaguarphd

I'd continue.

MathBandit

Its a draw if black plays well.  You need 4 moves to deliver mate with a Knight, and it will take at most 3 for the Black Queen to reach the White King.

rooperi

Play on, clearly Black can't win, continuing is risk free

Gomer_Pyle

I would continue as white. I won't say more as I think that would be unfair.

Scarblac

I agree, Black can never win, so always let him prove it's a draw. Those passed pawns look dangerous, so I suspect it's won for White anyway.

M_M_

how is it UNFAIR ?

sebas4life

According to rybka this position is 100% drawn

Scarblac
sebas4life wrote:

According to rybka this position is 100% drawn


So since when is that a reason to offer a draw? Let him prove it.

rooperi

Oops, easy draw for black, Sac the Queen, you could start wit Qxb5+

rooperi

Unless White has chances after Nf5+? That's the only thing that kills the stalemate

Daniel3

Since Black's pawns are all blocked up, and his King can't move, you effectively have three pawns, a King, and two Knights vs a Queen. That should certainly be enough to win. If it's a draw, then let Black prove it. If not, then you have the best chance to win.

rooperi

Doesn't anybody listen to what I'm saying? It'a an easy draw for Black. For example:

Gomer_Pyle
M_M_ wrote:

how is it UNFAIR ?


I thought this was a game in progress and it would be unfair to give one side tips. If it's not a game in progress then disregard what I said about fairness.

I was actually thinking about this game during lunch and decided I would keep playing with either color, if only long enough to make the other side prove they knew what to do.

OMGdidIrealyjustsact

That proves it then. If white wants to avoid the stalemate he has to play Nf5+ but that just lets black into the game. Play on to see how desperate Black is but he should see it.

DimKnight

Strong work, rooperi. And very amusing, I might add. So rare to see a "desperado" queen!

DarkPhobos

Seems interesting to continue 1. Kc3!? and see if Black goes for 1. ... Qxb5??.

M_M_

Yeah... it's better draw for white... pushing the pawns is STUPID...

kaos2008

draw by force.

the desparado queen checks and checks...........

IPA-Ray

But Nf5+ forces gxf5 and that stops the stalemate. Rooperi is correct if it is Black to move but the problem says White to move.