Underrated or cheating 1100-1400 players

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ieatqueen
YoungGirlNiceRack wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:

This 1200 player feels just about right. Not cheating? https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076574635

Not cheating at all.  I've played double digit players better than that.

Thanks for your analysis young boy nice rack.

piotrchess
ieatqueen wrote:

Why do we have so many strong players in the 1100 to 1400 range? Are they cheating? Maybe I'm overestimating my skills.

Could someone check this game where I lost whether my 1100 opponent is playing stronger than his rating please. Although I don't study openings or tactics I believe I have good overall chess skills.

This is the link to my game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076154445

Sorry I can't insert my game using firefox. Thank you.

 

You gave up two pawns in the 1st game, so don't be suprised, When I was playing chess at one tournament I've baeaten guy with 2000 rating, there were many combiantions missed by you and that guy, so I guess you just played worse

Regards, Piotr

sudarsenthil
forked_again wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:

Why do we have so many strong players in the 1100 to 1400 range? Are they cheating? Maybe I'm overestimating my skills.

Could someone check this game where I lost whether my 1100 opponent is playing stronger than his rating please. Although I don't study openings or tactics I believe I have good overall chess skills.

This is the link to my game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076154445

Sorry I can't insert my game using firefox. Thank you.

 

Posts above are good points.  Game played looks like cheating with almost all perfect moves.  But another explanation is the guy is a very  good player who has only been a member for 4 days.  Everyone starts with the same rating and it takes some time and games for a player to move up or down to his appropriate rating.  

 

but when I started,I started with te rating 1200

ieatqueen
piotrchess wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:

Why do we have so many strong players in the 1100 to 1400 range? Are they cheating? Maybe I'm overestimating my skills.

Could someone check this game where I lost whether my 1100 opponent is playing stronger than his rating please. Although I don't study openings or tactics I believe I have good overall chess skills.

This is the link to my game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076154445

Sorry I can't insert my game using firefox. Thank you.

 

You gave up two pawns in the 1st game, so don't be suprised, When I was playing chess at one tournament I've baeaten guy with 2000 rating, there were many combiantions missed by you and that guy, so I guess you just played worse

Regards, Piotr

But you didn't answer the question if he's playing stronger than his rating. I know sometimes I play really bad because I multitask all the time.

That combination was too good for his level. A proper 1100sh player would go on like this (a game I just finished). https://www.chess.com/live/game/3081349257

ieatqueen
YoungGirlNiceRack wrote:
piotrchess wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:

Why do we have so many strong players in the 1100 to 1400 range? Are they cheating? Maybe I'm overestimating my skills.

Could someone check this game where I lost whether my 1100 opponent is playing stronger than his rating please. Although I don't study openings or tactics I believe I have good overall chess skills.

This is the link to my game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076154445

Sorry I can't insert my game using firefox. Thank you.

 

You gave up two pawns in the 1st game, so don't be suprised, When I was playing chess at one tournament I've baeaten guy with 2000 rating, there were many combiantions missed by you and that guy, so I guess you just played worse

Regards, Piotr

Slapping that cuck with THE TRUTH lol

A girl could be this nasty? I will feed you a little troll.

drmrboss

  Both a 1 elo player and a 3400+ engine are capable of playing 1.d4 btw. 

 

Too smart!!! 

How did OP know 1 elo player vs 3400+ engines? And why OP think that 1 elo player is using engine?

ieatqueen
YoungGirlNiceRack wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:
piotrchess wrote:
ieatqueen wrote:

Why do we have so many strong players in the 1100 to 1400 range? Are they cheating? Maybe I'm overestimating my skills.

Could someone check this game where I lost whether my 1100 opponent is playing stronger than his rating please. Although I don't study openings or tactics I believe I have good overall chess skills.

This is the link to my game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/3076154445

Sorry I can't insert my game using firefox. Thank you.

 

You gave up two pawns in the 1st game, so don't be suprised, When I was playing chess at one tournament I've baeaten guy with 2000 rating, there were many combiantions missed by you and that guy, so I guess you just played worse

Regards, Piotr

But you didn't answer the question if he's playing stronger than his rating. I know sometimes I play really bad because I multitask all the time.

That combination was too good for his level. A proper 1100sh player would go on like this (a game I just finished). https://www.chess.com/live/game/3081349257

No,  that is playing at his rating.  That said, not all positions are of the same difficulty to play.  It changes with the nature of what is important, at that time, on the board and the familiarity or understanding of the player moving the pieces.  Both a 1 elo player and a 3400+ engine are capable of playing 1.d4 btw.  Simple facts,  even for a dummy like you.

I'm amazed how this thing with a nice rack is not yet banned.

ieatqueen

A proper 1300 player should struggle and hesitate a lot when playing me just like this one. https://www.chess.com/live/game/3081406625

A 1200 player who comes at me with guns blazing armed with superb opening, traps, tactics, positional maneuvers is just too unbelievable. Sophisticated cheating, a very nice term.

CalpiognaChess

The player you mentioned played very good games. He likes tactics, and in a 5 minutes tactics justify the 90% of results. My conclusion is that this player is a strong player (at least elo 1900-2000) so don't look at his actual rating.

CalpiognaChess

In any case you can't say "this player is a 1300 Elo so should play like this and like that. For example me actually I've 2030 elo. In classical games (real games not in internet) I've about 1990 elo. Here I played many hundreds of blitz games and sometime I went under 1700. Really you don't have to judge another player for the elo in blitz.

drmrboss

OP, Tactics happens, when you have so many hanging pieces like that! 

Plan 1

Put your pieces in good position!

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At move 15. Instead of playing Bg4?? I will play 15. Bg3. (It will prevent all possible tactics and safe and secure your king side!

 

Plan 2. Once you prevent opponent's tactics, you need to improve your positon, your position is already bad due to your weak move at 6. d3?? (better was 6. d4). To improve, play

(d4 and Bd3) , Exchange rooks in "e" file. And then reroute your Kt on c3.( that knight is quite useless as the kt is blocked by black's strong centre pawns) .

 

 

 

DovidNosson

ya'll both play better than me and im in the 1400s. Of course im lazy and a little meshug--hence my tactics drop from 2250 to 1500.

DonThe2nd

The default rating for a new player is 1200, so a lot players in the 1100 to 1400 range probably have just started and haven't risen or fallen to their true strength yet. It's hard to guess what a player's rating will be so they start you at 1200 which is right about in the middle strength-wise. A player could rise to master level or fall to 100, you never know.

StinkingHyena

Hopefully chess.com will implement matching on how long a player has been a member, players that have been here a long time are less likely cheating (i.e. cheaters are somewhat weeded out before 1 or 2 year anniverseries).

DovidNosson

The moral here being if you are gonna cheat, wait a year or two.

MGleason

To discuss the matter of cheating further, or to learn more about cheat detection, please join the Cheating Forum: https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

 

Chess.com takes cheating very seriously: see

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/News/new-tools-for-fair-play-on-chess-com 

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection  https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444879-fair-play-on-chess-com-what-you-need-to-know

https://www.chess.com/blog/DanielRensch/cheating-on-chesscom


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However, discussions of cheating in the main forum is not permitted, as it tends to become very heated and result in lots of public accusations, many of which are completely unfounded; you might be surprised how many cheating reports we get about low-rated players after a game that was a complete blunderfest. If all these reports were aired in public, it would just cause an ugly flame war. Therefore, I am locking this post.


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