What is the meaning of the numerical value in the new Criticality Graph? .

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flashlight002

A new graph called 'Criticality' has been added to game analysis. A kind member was able to give me the following data:

But the above does not explainwhat the numerical value is in the pop up tool tip for that move. Here is a screenshot:

It says 300. But 300 what? It is not the engine analysis -that is + 0.70. Any chess engine boffins out there? There is basically 0 information on this! 

flashlight002

@PawnstormPossie let me dig deeper. I will look at the prior move engine output value and the criticality flagged move engine output value and compute the difference in centipawn values. Hopefully this says 300   or +3 pawns basically. Will post again here. Love how we have to sniff this stuff out ourselves.

flashlight002

@PawnstormPossie it doesn't add up. Prior move by white had an engine output of -3.54 which in centipawns is basically -354. My black move marked a criticality move attracted an engine evaluation of +0.70 or +70 centipawns. That difference is -284 centipawns, not 300. So 300 has to mean something else.

Hypnoticdemon

I can tell you that they're  not the exact same. The number on the black and white rectangle shows who has the advantage, and by how much. It can also show M (#). This symbolizes  checkmate in a certain number of moves.

From what I understand about the second  number. It's a measure of the level  of importance  a certain move had. In other words, its  impact on the game. I'm  assuming  it also counts when you find a  good move in a position with few good moves.Hope this helps.☺

flashlight002

Guess I will have to wait for the video promised...just like we are waiting for the CAPS article that was promised. Boy I feel sorry for newbies trying to figure things out. 

Hypnoticdemon

CAPS? What is this? 

flashlight002

@Hypnoticdemon thanks for the input. happy.png I totally understand engine output figures, advantage calculations etc.  I get that the 300 measures an importance value of some type or another...but a value of what? It has to be a measure of something in some empirical format. Normally centipawns have been used to measure advantage so my question still is...300 whats? 

Hypnoticdemon

Is it that number you receive  after analyzing  a game. It's  a decimal/percentage, maxing at 100. Is that  what you're  referring  to?

flashlight002

And it's totally frustrating that a feature gets launched with 0 instructions. What's with that?

Hypnoticdemon

I know. It's  quite difficult. All you want to do is understand but you have to rely on your intuition  to guess certain features or understand the numbers being shown.

flashlight002

P@Hypnoticdemon no it is the value in the pop up connected to the criticality bar (representing a move that had a critical importance at a stage in the game) as shown in my image. And the value says 300. Run an analysis on a game and check it out.

Hypnoticdemon

Sure, will check it out. Thanks!

flashlight002
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

I wonder if this has something to do with secondary orality.

What in the world is a secondary orality????

flashlight002

@ghost_of_pushwood I think is pulling my/our legs by obfuscating matters for the fun of it to make our heads turn 360 degrees.  @PawnstormPossie Secondary orality is written text, TV, media as apposed to primary orality such as the spoken word one to one in a culture. It is all to do with anthropology and written about by a chap called Walter Ong. So ya. An interesting  interlude but has 0 to do with what I asked. But hey I can now also bamboozle someone at a later date and blame it all on secondary orality lol.

flashlight002

I'm giving up for now until someone like @DanielRensch gives a video or writes an article to explain it clearly. When I have proper facts I will post it here. 

flashlight002

@ghost_of_pushwood that will according to my sources require quantum physics computer technology and entangled particles in conjunction with rented space at Cern to compute. It will be ready for release 100 days before anyone knows about it...being of a quantum nature, and existing and not existing at the same time, and your moves will have duality of purpose and 2 positional states at once....being of a quantum nature naturally. 

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