Why convert to Rook?

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SnarkyKnight

Does this make sense?

SnarkyKnight

I made a move and the computer showed a series of better moves that included this pawn promoting to a rook ... how does promoting to anything other than Q or Knight make sense?

SnarkyKnight

Any insight is appreciated. Thanks

BlackKang

THE_GHOST_M

Sometimes it's stalemate if you promote to a queen. So you have to promote pawn to other piece.

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SnarkyKnight wrote:

I made a move and the computer showed a series of better moves that included this pawn promoting to a rook ... how does promoting to anything other than Q or Knight make sense?

Hi,

I assume that is from the game you played yesterday. I got it to that position and the evaluation bar definitely prefers a queen. Maybe promoting to a rook was better than a worse move but promoting to a queen is definitely better!

There are a number of occassions when under promotion is worth while, a rook can avoid a stalemate.

magipi

It's a bug. Those "example lines" in Game Analysis are clearly bugged, but nobody cares enough to fix it.

Commando_Droid

I'm just going to be honest, promoting to a knight or bishop also is completely winning

mkkuhner

When the chess.com computer is promoting a pawn and expects the promoted piece to be immediately captured, it will very often promote to a rook (occasionally a bishop) instead of a queen. I wonder if it feels that it "loses less material" that way? My students and I have seen this enough times that it's a running joke for us.

BlackKang
kingandqueen2017 wrote:

I'm just going to be honest, promoting to a knight or bishop also is completely winning

Why is there no option to promote a pawn to a reversed pawn that then goes the other way sad.png

magipi
mkkuhner wrote:

When the chess.com computer is promoting a pawn and expects the promoted piece to be immediately captured, it will very often promote to a rook (occasionally a bishop) instead of a queen. I wonder if it feels that it "loses less material" that way? My students and I have seen this enough times that it's a running joke for us.

If you look at the example position carefully, the promoted piece isn't going to get captured because black has no piece to capture it.

It's a bug.

SnakeReddy

which is more impactful among camel and horse?

germansoldier391

to avoid stalemate

germansoldier391

somestimes you have to underpromote to avoid stalemate

MARattigan
BlackKang wrote:
kingandqueen2017 wrote:

I'm just going to be honest, promoting to a knight or bishop also is completely winning

Why is there no option to promote a pawn to a reversed pawn that then goes the other way

Or a fire engine maybe.

SnarkyKnight

Thanks for all responses ... the stalemate issue is a good point but doesn't apply here so I guess the "bug" diagnosis must be correct. Thanks again.

Unprofessional121212

I have an idea. Make it so that only the pawns in front of the King and Queen can promote to a queen, the other 6 pawns can only become Knights, Bishops or Rooks

So that there can be a reason for Rook and Bishop promotion.

Laskersnephew
gik-tally

Promoting to a rook minimizes the chances of a stalemate. I've drawn against queen PAIRS plus bishops and even a rook once by playing hide and seek in the center or around enemy pawns.

Promoting to a rook makes for a slower win, but if that's all you need to finish a game it's good practice and sends a signal to your opponent that "this is all I need to mate you".

If a position is complicated with potential counterplay, I'll go for the power piece. I just played a game where I promoted to a knight just for the check tempo last week