With more time, who takes it?

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GrooveHard

So this is a game which I recently played, and won only because time ran out on the opponent.  I played white, and have just moved into a check position along the 'h' file.  Had the game had more time, would I have had the winning mate? or is it still too far to tell.  I've tried to analyze this myself, but am still kind of new to chess.

 

THanks

Skeptikill

as far as i can see i doubt there is a forced mate anytime soon. You do have a won game with the extra pawns once you get the queens gone!

Gert-Jan

I don't fully agree with Skeptikill. Even when there is a queen exchange black still has the advantage
1. black has a pawn on the sixth rank and the king nearby to protect it. So he possibly can promote it to a queen.
2.Black has a bishop. The board is very open so he can benefit from the open space. White has a knight which is very powerfull when the game is closed but less powerfull when there is a lot of open space.

concluding, this is not even close to a winning mate.

BigHogDogg

White should win with perfect play (more pawns), but to be honest, there are so many pitfalls in the position that it's anyones game at your level (although I would try for a win).  At the very least, this is a draw for white because Qd7+ and Qh3+ can be played repeatedly.  Proving both the pitfalls in the position and that white has at least a draw, I give you the below analysis.

 

Biarien
Gert-Jan wrote:

I don't fully agree with Skeptikill. Even when there is a queen exchange black still has the advantage
1. black has a pawn on the sixth rank and the king nearby to protect it. So he possibly can promote it to a queen.
2.Black has a bishop. The board is very open so he can benefit from the open space. White has a knight which is very powerfull when the game is closed but less powerfull when there is a lot of open space.

concluding, this is not even close to a winning mate.


Black does have a bishop vs. a knight, but black's single pawn is on the 6th rank, not the 3rd rank -- in other words, it has only moved one square, and is hardly ready to be promoted. With no queens, white should win easily even at the beginner level (so long as you don't just give away pawns).

BigHogDogg

Found a win for white.  So yes, with best play white does win.

Gert-Jan
Biarien wrote:
Gert-Jan wrote:

I don't fully agree with Skeptikill. Even when there is a queen exchange black still has the advantage
1. black has a pawn on the sixth rank and the king nearby to protect it. So he possibly can promote it to a queen.
2.Black has a bishop. The board is very open so he can benefit from the open space. White has a knight which is very powerfull when the game is closed but less powerfull when there is a lot of open space.

concluding, this is not even close to a winning mate.


Black does have a bishop vs. a knight, but black's single pawn is on the 6th rank, not the 3rd rank -- in other words, it has only moved one square, and is hardly ready to be promoted. With no queens, white should win easily even at the beginner level (so long as you don't just give away pawns).


 You're right about the pawn promotion.

GrooveHard

Thanks for your analysis guys!  There were some great moves suggested that I had not seen happening there.  Perhaps if there was more time in the game I might have flubbed it up, but now I have a different perspective on how things might have gone!

Much appreciated!

-austin