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Khawer_Khan

Any advice on how to take advantage of his early Queen devolopment. I know its a bad idea to devolop the Queen so early, so how should I have exploited it?
Khawer_Khan

21...Nd6 should have been 21...h6

Khawer_Khan

Got hammered by the Scholar's mate again. This time by a little kid. Very embarrasing. I'm a 30 year old man! hahaha

 

Cystem_Phailure

5...Qxf2+ killed you.  Not only did you only get a pawn back for the Knight he just took, you took your own Queen away as a defender.  It seems to me if someone has been allowed to get their Queen and Bishop zeroed in on your f7 pawn from two directions, your biggest concern at that moment should be dealing with defense, not "counter-attacking".  5...gxh6 takes his Bishop, and for the moment both of your pawns on g6 and e5 are covered.  Then ...d6 and bring out your Queenside pieces so you can castle long.

Cystem_Phailure

BTW-- what was the time control?  I'm guessing this was a fast game and without much time to think on each move.

Cystem_Phailure

Your best respone to 2.Qh5+ is to calmly protect your pawn on e5 with 2...Nc6 -- a nice developing move.  If your opponent persists with 3.Bc4 , now it's time to block and chase his Queen with 3...g6 .

Khawer_Khan
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

BTW-- what was the time control?  I'm guessing this was a fast game and without much time to think on each move.


The embarrasing truth is that it was a 10 minute game. I just realized in my last game (which I won- yay!) that I really move too fast. I need to take my time to think of a good move.

Khawer_Khan
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

Your best respone to 2.Qh5+ is to calmly protect your pawn on e5 with 2...Nc6 -- a nice developing move.  If your opponent persists with 3.Bc4 , now it's time to block and chase his Queen with 3...g6 .


Thank you!

Khawer_Khan

I played that out on an analysis board. It works really well. Turns the table on the intrepid white player becuase I get to develop a LOT of my pieces while he's basically just moved his Queen into an awkard position.

I LOVE this game! Wish I'd gotten into it when I was younger :)

Cystem_Phailure

In most cases, that's the problem with bringing the Queen out early.  The other fellow can keep chasing the Queen, and ideally he can do so while at the same time making moves to develop pieces that he wanted to bring out anyway.  So if you can chase the Queen by bringing out a Knight (but not using a Knight that was already developed), or a Bishop, or with a pawn that opens up your Bishop, you've basically gotten a free turn while the other guy is running around.

There are some openings where it's common to bring the Queen out to grab a center pawn, but you have to be careful.  For instance, the Centre Game often plays as

 

Khawer_Khan

Yes, some of my opponents have been playing that one as well. Anywhere online where I can study that line? Its called the "Centre Game"?

Cystem_Phailure

Have you found the Game Explorer yet?  

http://www.chess.com/explorer/index.html

It's under the Learn drop down menu.  You can enter in various series of moves and see all the lines that people have played with the frequency, outcome percentages, etc.  Unfortunately, as a free account member I think you can only go two moves, but if a paid account has full access.  You might find that feature by itself a compelling reason to get a paid account.

Also, you can enter the names for various openings and find the data that way.

But for free, enter the name of a chess opening in Wikipedia and you'll get a fair amount of info on the various lines, traps, problems, etc.  For instance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_game

Khawer_Khan

Yes, I really should get a paid account. I'm getting one when I move to a new apartment in January. I'll have to reevualte my budget and all then.

 

Btw, I found a great free app on my iPad called "Openings Lite" that has more depth than the free version of game explorer.

Bubatz

If you've only got a free membership on chess.com, then you still can get unlimited access to a huge database for games/openings through www.365chess.com (which is also free). Regarding the scholar's mate, the correct defense is

1.e4e5 2.Qh5?Nc6 3.Bc4g6 4.Qf3Nf6

Some blokes then play:

5.Qb3?

after which ...

5...Nd4!

And now the intended

6.Bxf7+??

loses to the simple

6...Ke7

after which White will not be able to defend against the threats of Nxc2 and Kxf7.

Some don't like the hole Black creates with 3...g6, but you could fianchetto your Bishop to g7 later if you want to remedy this.

Cystem_Phailure

Yes, 365chess.com has a great free explorer, and I was just coming back to the thread to mention it!  Also nice is if you register at 365chess.com (free) you can save opening lines, so if you're looking at several different games (or even just one, I guess) over more than one Internet session you can save the lines up to as far as you've gotten and not have to enter all the moves again when you return.

Khawer_Khan

I am inserting Bubatz's reply about beating the Scholars mate in diagram form for my benifit and the benifit of other newbies.

madhatter5

2.Qh5 is not at all a bad move. It was played successfully by Hikaru Nakamura.

16. exf6 1-0

Cystem_Phailure

Nakamura could win with 1.a4 against most people.

Eric_Cantona

badknight

Nakamura can give queen odd to many people.

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