Beating arrogance

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texaspete

Always fun to do.

My opponent started with a very aggressive approach to the Scandinavian, sacrificing a bishop to destroy my kingside.

Initially I didn't do brilliantly (but well enough to survive) - my 6th move (Ke8) was a mistake, and my opponent was thanking me for his win on his 8th move.

It was a little premature. After a queen chase took her to the sidelines with no other white piece off the 1st rank, some precise black play on the kingside led to white's demise - but not before white tried some gamesmanship by trying to goad me into a stupid move on move 22 (Bxg2 - where white escapes only a piece down).

Sensibly I ignored it, winning the white queen and effectively the game.

White wanted to fight to the finish as they were a superior player to me (and had annoyed me earlier with his arrogance), so I decided to collect a few knights instead of going for the mate. Eventually my opponent could stand no more, denying me full retribution for the arrogance that went before.

Quite pleased with this game - I chose the right option more often than not, beat an opponent rated above me and mainly avoided the stupid errors that my opponent was obviously hoping for.

willisl0

 that game made your oppenent look really bad.

rednblack

Not sure Texaspete comes out looking much better

smattaih

what does he do at 9. Qe5 ? 9. Qe5 would be so much better
The pawn takes, queen retakes making it a check king goes to D7
the queen then takes the bisshop, King goes back to D7
(if the pawns doesn't take, the knight goes back to E5 making the bisshop nearly a lost pawn since he can't move from there (he must stay on the D1-H5 diagonal) in order to not let the queen visit H5 which would be at last a checkmate, however every single place on this diagonal is guarded... (QD5 is only a relay since the other knight would visit D3

In general white would be a horse in disadvantage, but three pawns ahead, which isn't that bad at all, so the risky move wasn't one that was completely insane, it's the rest of his play.

Sconsc

I wholeheartedly agree with the play from move 35 and on!

texaspete

rednblack, Borgqueen

Four points:

1. My opponent (who was rated quite highly, though only ~40 points above me) chose the disrespectful approach of bringing the queen out prematurely along with an unsound sacrifice. Not a problem - for me to demonstrate why he is wrong - and I did make an error in my initial response

2. My opponent was thanking me for "his victory" on the 8th move

3. My opponent was distracting me on the 22nd move, asking "Why are you taking so long to move - Bxg2 wins the game for you" - which would have led to him escaping only a minor piece down. I see that as gamesmanship - the option I chose was far stronger and left the game won

4. He was determined not to resign, in the face of the material deficit. He  obviously didn't think the game was lost so I thought I'd humour him a while.

Points 1 and 2 I can deal with.

Point 3 riled me a lot (after 2).

Point 4 - maybe you're right - a bit childish to start collecting knights (6 knights, move king into corner encircled by knights, sacrifice rook, queen, pretty picture mate)

smattai

I take it you mean Qg5 or Qxg4?

I think Rg8 was a plausible response to that, leaving me a pawn up. You're probably right that this would have been a better alternative.

But my opponent was after the h8 rook still and thought this move could win it (assuming I would make a silly mistake - which seems the assumption most his play and comments were based on)

Spike_Mason

Personally, I think that checkmating him earlier and just smiling would have felt so much better. Parading your pieces like that and getting a whole bunch of knights makes you look arrogant.

ChessByBook

Haha, well texaspete, even though some dont seem to agree with your method with dealing with arrogant players, I for one agree, whats so bad about getting a little taste of their own medicine eh?

rednblack

I've got to agree with Spike_Mason.  I'm not even saying you weren't in the right to do what you did, but you're claiming to beat arrogance by behaving in an arrogant manner. 

Sconsc

Don't listen to them you did the right thing, too bad he resigned so soon with the game still being unclear.

xMenace

37 ... Qg3 38 Kh6 39 Qf6# would have ended your misery nicely. 

TheGrobe
texaspete wrote:
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1. My opponent (who was rated quite highly, though only ~40 points above me) chose the disrespectful approach of bringing the queen out prematurely along with an unsound sacrifice. Not a problem - for me to demonstrate why he is wrong - and I did make an error in my initial response

...

A specious sacrifice and developing your Queen early is disrespectful?  Foolhardy maybe, but disrespectful?  No.

The other points are valid, and some of his actions are in fact disrespectful, but no more so than your play.

Nighthawk162

lol i wonder if arrogance saw this

what a loser. That should happen to everyone that doesn't have good sportsmanship

maximus_dragon

he sure like those horseys

Phelon

I liked it, he was obviously hoping for a stalemate at the end but he realized you were going to kill him slowly and resigned Laughing. I would have made 5 bishops myself but knights work too.

RN9

Taught him a lesson.

laporte

you missed the mate a lot of times, looks like you could not even win..

Henry601

My friend, you have always been an honorable man....and the one thing I have learned is always remain humble and never take anyone for granted.  Obviously, this person needed a lesson.  Well done, but next time, don't be SOOOOO tough.

Mm40

I believe what you did was wrong, and how is sacrificing a peice and bringing his queen out disrespectful? It may not be the best move, but that's good for you.

As for thanking you for the game on move 8, he obviously misanalysed by overlooking something.

Telling you to hurry up and play the move he wanted you to play was rude, but what you did makes me view you as the arrogant one.

D_Blackwell

He was entitled to play any opening and in any fashion.  Over confident and disprespecful of someone of about equal strength - pehaps, but not out of line as it was his risk to take - and you did misplay.

The comments on moves 8 and 22 were disrespecful and inappropriate.  However, your response was amatuerish and childish.  Always kill your enemy by the most efficient means possible.