Fishing pole trap variation

Last two games that I have played as black, ng4 has served me well in this kind of position.  First one was a bit convoluted whereas this one was pretty clear.

Any comments welcome

18...Qf2# -- oh yeah missed the comment.

In practical terms, against lower rated players, that fishing pole move catches a lot of fish... but in pure chess terms it's not a great move. I mean you can't assume your opponent is going to fall for it and take it. So if the N sac is declined you've got a N on g4 and you've pretty much committed to castling 0-0-0 or leaving your king in the middle. For what compensation? Is the N well-posted there? Not really... it ties your Queen and rook to it's defense.  I think I'd play 9...Qb3 and see what kind of trouble I could stir up.

Yup, mentioned in the comments.

did you not see it or something?

Why are you asking questions when you don't care about the answer... oh wait now I'm doing it (or something).

Obviously I didn't, would have played it otherwise :) not that it mattered in the end!

Been playing the Fishing Pole for 11 years - my ex-roommate LM Jack Young taught it to me

for more see

Fishing Pole Chess

on Youtube

or

How To Play Chess Like An Animal

by Anthea Carson and Lynn Trochim

or

Formation Attacks

by Joel Johnson

or thousands of annotated Fishing Poles at

BrianWallChess@Yahoogroups.com

Hi,

I agree with JG27Pyth , in that against lower rated players, sure it is a possibility, but against higher rated players you are just going to lose in the end.  The thing is one should play the same against lower rated players as you would against higher rated players - the reason is you will be better off learning the proper principles and sticking to them.  Have you not see in an OTB tournament that often a very highly rated player > 2000 will play slowly and carefully against a "weak" player and you wander past the board sometimes and think "you should crush this guy easily why are you letting it get to an endgame" - it is a matter of practicing proper technique.

Just my thought.

Kind Regards.

just wondering what black is going to do if 10.Ng5.

my question still stands.

What?!  You mean the fishing pole had a trap variation?  And here I've been going for the quiet positional lines contenting myself with endgame after endgame of trying to convert a minuscule advantage.  /sarcasm 

In addition to that I doubt if 9.hxg4? deserves the question mark.

What will black do if 10.Ng5....  Well, perhaps realise he has a rubbish position and should not have said 9.hxg4? deserved a question mark when in fact the move deserving a double question mark was 8... h5??

Excellent trap...