I prefer 2d chess pieces if I am not in front of real chessboard.
2D pieces or 3D, what is easiest and/or better?
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Jun 30, 2018
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I find that 3d pieces on computer chess are hard to look at. I’ve often wondered though if playing online chess with 3d pieces would help you visualize better for OTB?
Jun 30, 2018
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jsrpandey skrev:
I prefer 2d chess pieces if I am not in front of real chessboard.
Ok, do you think that chess is easier IRL/OTB than 2D chess online?
Jun 30, 2018
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LouStule skrev:
I find that 3d pieces on computer chess are hard to look at. I’ve often wondered though if playing online chess with 3d pieces would help you visualize better for OTB?
I don't really know because I don't play that much OTB. I can really imagine that it does, and that begs the question if it's actually better to only play with 3D pieces. However, I am interested in what people think is easier, 2D or OTB?
OTB, definitely 3D (2D would be possible with those pocket sets with chips). Online, 2D (like diagrams). They are different situations to me, I don't find any difficulties switching from one to another.
I mean, I find "3D" pieces on a screen confusing, they are actually 2D designs with an effect of perspective.
#D PIECES!!!!
I guess it's a matter of habit and/or taste. I would not say any is better, although personally I prefer 2D playing on the internet and 3D playing OTB.
Jun 30, 2018
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square0 skrev:
I guess it's a matter of habit and/or taste. I would not say any is better, although personally I prefer 2D playing on the internet and 3D playing OTB.
I see, but I have a hard time believing it is a matter of taste actually. One most be easier than the other. Either 2D online is easier or 3D OTB. I am surprised that no one expresses a strong preference or is certain about what is easier.
pauljacobson skrev:
square0 skrev:
I guess it's a matter of habit and/or taste. I would not say any is better, although personally I prefer 2D playing on the internet and 3D playing OTB.
I see, but I have a hard time believing it is a matter of taste actually. One most be easier than the other. Either 2D online is easier or 3D OTB. I am surprised that no one expresses a strong preference or is certain about what is easier.
Well - if you want, you could say that 2D requires less information than 3D for our visual and cognitive brain centers to process, because there is not a spatial dimension z (depth) to relate to, but saying that is at the risk of grosly generalizing the subject, because 1) we are visually and cognitively born/used to interpret information in 3D, and 2) some people may better visualize things in 3D whereas others may in 2D. Habit comes into play because, if you have been playing in 3D (OTB) for years and switch to looking at a screen, you may find it awkward in comparison to what you are used to, whereas if you are the internet generation and have played on the screen in 2D only for a long time and then joins a chessclub, you might have to adjust to that too. On top of that comes all the other factors that influences good/bad chessplay. So if there is an "easiest" to be determined it may be not so easy to give a good answer to that.
Jun 30, 2018
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square0 skrev:
pauljacobson skrev:
square0 skrev:
I guess it's a matter of habit and/or taste. I would not say any is better, although personally I prefer 2D playing on the internet and 3D playing OTB.
I see, but I have a hard time believing it is a matter of taste actually. One most be easier than the other. Either 2D online is easier or 3D OTB. I am surprised that no one expresses a strong preference or is certain about what is easier.
Well - if you want, you could say that 2D requires less information than 3D for our visual and cognitive brain centers to process, because there is not a spatial dimension z (depth) to relate to, but saying that is at the risk of grosly generalizing the subject, because 1) we are visually and cognitively born/used to interpret information in 3D, and 2) some people may better visualize things in 3D whereas others may in 2D. Habit comes into play because, if you have been playing in 3D (OTB) for years and switch to looking at a screen, you may find it awkward in comparison to what you are used to, whereas if you are the internet generation and have played on the screen in 2D only for a long time and then joins a chessclub, you might have to adjust to that too. On top of that comes all the other factors that influences good/bad chessplay. So if there is an "easiest" to be determined it may be not so easy to give a good answer to that.
That was an interesting answer square0. Good answer. The scenario that I was thinking was lets say two persons who have the same IQ and memory skills start learning chess simultaneously, one of them learns chess online 2D and the other one 3D OTB. I wondered if their chess skills vary in any way due to this. As you said this may be hard to answer. Anyway it is an interesting question that relates to how our brain works. But when we are talking in practical manners perhaps we can all agree that it is good to be able to switch from one to another without experiencing major difficulties.
pauljacobson skrev:
square0 skrev:
pauljacobson skrev:
square0 skrev:
I guess it's a matter of habit and/or taste. I would not say any is better, although personally I prefer 2D playing on the internet and 3D playing OTB.
I see, but I have a hard time believing it is a matter of taste actually. One most be easier than the other. Either 2D online is easier or 3D OTB. I am surprised that no one expresses a strong preference or is certain about what is easier.
Well - if you want, you could say that 2D requires less information than 3D for our visual and cognitive brain centers to process, because there is not a spatial dimension z (depth) to relate to, but saying that is at the risk of grosly generalizing the subject, because 1) we are visually and cognitively born/used to interpret information in 3D, and 2) some people may better visualize things in 3D whereas others may in 2D. Habit comes into play because, if you have been playing in 3D (OTB) for years and switch to looking at a screen, you may find it awkward in comparison to what you are used to, whereas if you are the internet generation and have played on the screen in 2D only for a long time and then joins a chessclub, you might have to adjust to that too. On top of that comes all the other factors that influences good/bad chessplay. So if there is an "easiest" to be determined it may be not so easy to give a good answer to that.
That was an interesting answer square0. Good answer. The scenario that I was thinking was lets say two persons who have the same IQ and memory skills start learning chess simultaneously, one of them learns chess online 2D and the other one 3D OTB. I wondered if their chess skills vary in any way due to this. As you said this may be hard to answer. Anyway it is an interesting question that relates to how our brain works. But when we are talking in practical manners perhaps we can all agree that it is good to be able to switch from one to another without experiencing major difficulties.
I agree with you.
Yes, On the board it is easier to visualise.
Jun 30, 2018
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jsrpandey skrev:
Yes, On the board it is easier to visualise.
Ok, Magnus also said that he preferred OTB as compared to 2D online chess.
i like 3d
Hi everybody!
What do you think is best to mentally navigate with, 2D pieces or 3D pieces? (3D pieces includes both OTB and using 3D pieces online).
I have my own distinct opinions of this but as I am really interested in your opinions, thoughts and suggestions I will keep my own thoughts relating to this private for now.