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thakorsagar93

i was playing rated tournament in delhi.

in 9th round(final) after around at 10 moves one person gave excetly 3 chocklets to my opponent and walk away. they didnt talk.

i doubted then that this could be some kind of signal.but i did nothing.(may be beacuse result of our game wouldn't claim any prices)

after that i found that he (person who gave chocklet) is continously observing our game.

so i want ask you wherther this is possiable cheating???

in future this happens again, what should i do?

slowdeath22

That is almost definitely cheating, report that to an arbiter immediately if it happens again

slowdeath22

Oh chocolate, I doubt that is cheating. But if he gives 4 chocolates and your opponent moves to d4 or something, be suspicious.

Bramblyspam

You're being paranoid. Sure, it's obvious that the watcher knew your opponent, but that's no indication of cheating. Perhaps they were just related. What could be more natural than a father wanting to keep an eye on his son's game? Sure, it's theoretically possible that they were cheating, but I'd say odds are 99%+ that they were not.

If they wanted to cheat, handing chocolates would be a really stupid way to send signals. If you wanted to send signals to someone, I'm sure you could think of much simpler, more effective, and less obvious ways to do it.

If this sort of thing happens again and you feel uncomfortable about it, just tell a tournament director. Then settle down and play chess.

thakorsagar93
Bramblyspam wrote:

You're being paranoid. Sure, it's obvious that the watcher knew your opponent, but that's no indication of cheating. Perhaps they were just related. What could be more natural than a father wanting to keep an eye on his son's game? Sure, it's theoretically possible that they were cheating, but I'd say odds are 99%+ that they were not.

If they wanted to cheat, handing chocolates would be a really stupid way to send signals. If you wanted to send signals to someone, I'm sure you could think of much simpler, more effective, and less obvious ways to do it.

If this sort of thing happens again and you feel uncomfortable about it, just tell a tournament director. Then settle down and play chess.

thanks.

this clearad my mind.

newinnew

Well, better try to learn some more chess, than think your opponents are cheating you every time you lose... On the other chocolates has nothing to do with a "chess program" ...

Strangemover

Everyone knows 3 chocolates = 0-0-0.

AussieMatey

Chocolates no, but if more than 5 Mars Bars were involved, it's obviously a bribery scandal corrupting the Indian Chess Federation and you should contact your local Police department.

Twpsyn

I think it's yogurts and only yogurts that are used as signs.

chuckfloyd2011

  Remove the chocolates from the table and scream, "CHESS LIVES MATTER!"

Diakonia

Korchnoi thought Karpovs blue yogurts were a signal of some type.

Salem-Saberhagen

Did you check to see them exchange a blinking pattern ?

If they look at each other without talking but you see an unusual eye blinking routine going on, then that's probably morse code. Next time you see that happen, put dark sunglasses on your opponents face.

thegreat_patzer

yes, now people are just teasing the op.

regarding what is suspicious activity during a tournament, that is not a bad thing to look up- and you will find that passing chocolates or whatever is not a suspicious.

 

I would say that as a tournament player, that probably the biggest thing you should keep watch for is cell phones.  cell phones are banned in just about every serious chess tournament in any country- but people do try to get away with it, sometimes.  and if you see a cell phone- however briefly that would be a reason to suspect that someone is trying to cheat.

 

as many people have said, the main action is to inform the arbiter, Especially if you see violations of the rules.

 

they have also been incidents in the bathroom where people have tried to smuggle cell phones in a toilet stall.   thats a little  harder to prove though- and to a point, if you can not prove anything you must accept the result, even if you have suspicions that its not fair.  perhaps, if you are stubborn, you could ask the arbiter to examine the game Against his computer, but not every arbiter will.... and perhaps by the time you can check it for yourself the result has been recorded, and days later- I doubt you can contest the result.

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generally OTB tournaments Are fair IMHO.  and there is a LOT more ability to stop cheating there than there is in chess.com.   it is not good to become paranoid about this, and being paranoid will not help your chess. 

 

Even here, my experience is that I lose for easy mistakes and I miss too many opportunities.  that is what to work on and if you strive to improve in chess- I have great confidence that OTB cheating will almost never happen to you.

 

 

Twpsyn
Diakonia wrote:

Korchnoi thought Karpovs blue yogurts were a signal of some type.

Yes, i know.  Hence the joke...  such a spoil sport tongue.png