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batgirl

...was a sobriquet sometimes conferred on Alexander Alekhine by his contemporaries indicating a fondness for alcohol.

With this in mind, here is an interesting article I stumbled across concerning his wife :

batgirl

hmm.... I had thought this might prove interesting.  I guess not.

SOYLENTGREENISPEOPLE

Alekhine rules.  Prohibition sucks.

Thanks for posting, batgirl.

AlCzervik

Opposites attract?

camter

What sort of player did Alex Jr become?

Why did the Americans make his name sound like Whine and not Wean, but then Alex Alek would have been hard to wean antway going by his reputation. Smoked a lot too, it seems, although Chess playing Smokers, and Smoking Chessplayers were common back then, and up to the 1980s. Now, you have to leave the room to have a puff, which is why I took up Online Chess even before it even went Online.

Dodger111

Good personal interest story by someone that knew Alekhine:

 

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kmoch05.pdf

MrDamonSmith

Alekhine put his cigarette out on Mrs. Kmochs cake! Hahahahahaha.....................hahaha.............

Dodger111
LongIslandMark wrote:
batgirl wrote:

hmm.... I had thought this might prove interesting.  I guess not.

It might be the headline "Ale and Wine". I might not have opened the thread except for recognizing the OP.

I'm curious if the Mrs. Alekhine got to tour the states or not.

Yeah the OP shot himself in the foot with the thread title and drastically reduced the chances of any interest. 

I never knew Alekhine had a son, I always thought he just married several old women for their money. 

Dodger111
MrDamonSmith wrote:

Alekhine put his cigarette out on Mrs. Kmochs cake! Hahahahahaha.....................hahaha.............

Yes when Alekhine was in his cups he did some pretty weird stuff, I'm reposting the article by Kmoch in case someone missed it:

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kmoch05.pdf

 

And here's a radio interview of Alekhine:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMRg3I--SfA

batgirl

Note the date on the newspaper article is January 1926.  I'm certainly no authority on Alekhine, but it doesn't seem his drinking became a problem until later.

 Anneliese Rüegg Alekhine, mentioned in the article, was very soon to be divorced from Alekhine.  He more or less left her shortly after they were married (his second marriage) in 1921. They had a son together, Alexander, Jr. (she was pregnant when they married).  With his first wife, Anna von Sewergin, he had a daugher, Valencia, before they married in 1920. Not only was  Rüegg a prohibitionist, she had been an avowed communinst and student of Lennin.  As a Swiss journalist and author, she traveled to Russia and upon seeing first-hand the conditions of the people under communism, changed her political philosophy.

In 1927 Alekhine married Nadezhda (Fabritzky) Vasilieff, a successful artist and teacher at the Imperial Theater School (her parents has been well-known thesbians).

Finally he married the rich dowager, Grace Wishart, in 1935.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





Alekhine with his son:

Another interesting thing about Alekhine:

 
Dodger111
batgirl wrote:

Note the date on the newspaper article is January 1926.  I'm certainly no authority on Alekhine, but it doesn't seem his drinking became a problem until later.

 

You are correct, according to Hans Kmoch, who knew him well, Alekhine didn't become a problem drinker until 1931. 
















































wishiwonthatone
melvinbluestone wrote:

Interesting couple, a drinker and a prohibitionist. I wonder if Mrs. Alekhine was always anti-alcohol, or did life with her overindulging husband drive her to it.......

It was probably a life of UNDERindulging that led to it...  :)

Dodger111
melvinbluestone wrote:

@batgirl:

        I'm no whiz at mathematical calculation, but by my count, that's four marriages. Well, Alekhine certainly wasn't any Mickey Rooney or Liz, but maybe he tops the list of WCCs with multiple-marriages. I think Capablanca was married twice, and Kasparov's up to three. Maybe there's a correlation between an unstable domestic situation and playing strength........

After his first real marriage, Alekhine married 3 very old, rich women in their 60's- 70's so he could play chess while they supported him. The unions  all fell apart after a year or two. He was in his 30's at the time. He was sort of disgusting in that respect. 

MrDamonSmith

He played with his right hand in his pocket. Hehehe, what was that all about? 

ilikecapablanca

Alekhine choked on a sandwich. That made him the only champ to die champ.  I don't think that there is any differance between him and, say, Kasparov.

Dodger111

A picture of Alekhine taken where his body was found:

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/alekhine3.html

electricpawn

Ellis Island? Whether ailing from wine or whining for ale, it's any port in a storm!

electricpawn

If Shirley Temple was a drink, does that make Alekhine a White Russia?

electricpawn

Blue Nun had a Fat Tire under the Blue Moon with Jack Daniels when Jim Beam drove by with his headlights on high and blinded the Grey Goose.

wishiwonthatone

somebody has had a few alekhines ...