Any tips on how to play well in Daily Chess? - Chess Forums - Page 2

D_S_Oliver

May 30, 2017

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#21

Thanks for the tip about thinking on the point of the view of the opponent before making your move. I once got a (weird knight) checkmate with a completely winning position because I just thought it was won and played fastly.

Brb2023bruhh

May 31, 2017

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#22

LouStule wrote:

McDirtalot wrote:

Hello Chess friends.

I've decided to concentrate on daily/correspondence chess for a while in the hope it will help me improve.

Does anyone have any good tips on how to improve my performance?

many thanks for your advice in advance.

Rich.

Blunder check is important. Believe it or not, I've actually blundered a queen in a 3 day per move game! Using the analysis feature is very helpful also.

if no one blundered then all would be a komodo

Brb2023bruhh

May 31, 2017

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#23

there is a notes feauture if you know what i mean on the right hand side.No need for notebooks and stuff

RussBell

May 31, 2017

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#24

Not sure if this has been mentioned but in "Daily" chess, unlike "Live" chess, the use of books and databases is legal, but not human assistance or the use of chess analysis engines. This way you can study topics of immediate interest during the course of the game. I view daily chess as a learning-training opportunity. There will be some that recommend not using any resources. I disagree. I say use the resources that are legal in order to maximize your learning opportunity.

RussBell

May 31, 2017

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#25

I would say avail yourself of the legal resources while you are playing Daily chess. Apply what you are learning in an effort to minimize mistakes. Of course, in spite of this mistakes will inevitably be made. Then do a post-mortem on the game and try to learn from the mistakes made.

Daily chess allows time to play AND study, at the same time. And study concepts that are germane to the game(s) you are currently playing so that you can apply them in real time while they are fresh in your mind. This enhances the probability that you will remember what you have studied.

So the correct course of action for Daily chess would be play & study simultaneously, perform a post-mortem on your game, find (and understand) the mistakes, and repeat...

SeniorPatzer

May 31, 2017

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#26

Great discussion between Jengaias in #29 and Russ Bell in #30 above!

Having just finished playing in my first games as a Club Member using Daily Chess I did what Jengaias said. I thought I should treat it like a serious OTB game (or at least as serious as my mood allows). That means no looking up outside resources, and no writing down notes. Just make a move after spending a recent amount of time on what you think is going to be your best move. Use it to train for a regular OTB tournament game, thus treat it (and play it) like a regular OTB tournament game.

But now, upon reading not only Russ Bell's comments and others, I should probably treat it like old-time correspondence chess game (using postal mail). Look up written material. No use of chess engines. (Question: Does written material have to be in paper format, or can it be digital? I've been told that Google is my friend, lol.) AND write down my notes and analysis during the game on the notes section of the chess.com site.

My goodness, that would have been perfect for my initial games. It was a thematic match where we were compelled to use the French Defense. All I know is the first 3 moves of the Advance Variation and that Black has a shetty Queen Bishop in a lot of games. If I could have consulted resources during the games, that would have been helpful for my studying and learning and training.

Thanks for writing up your different training perspectives, guys!!

DiogenesDue

May 31, 2017

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#27

jengaias wrote:

RussBell wrote:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but in "Daily" chess, unlike "Live" chess, the use of books and databases is legal, but not human assistance or the use of chess analysis engines. This way you can study topics of immediate interest during the course of the game. I view daily chess as a learning-training opportunity. There will be some that recommend not using any resources. I disagree. I say use the resources that are legal in order to maximize your learning opportunity.

I would say don't use the resources and try to make the mistakes.Then use the resources to try to understand where you did the mistake.

The correct course is study , play , analyse your game , find your mistakes and repeat.

Study and play must be separate because study needs it's own focused time and play needs it's own.

If you mix them the results might be good but they aren't going to be optimum.

Disagree. Your OTB and Live chess play already fill this role and you will likely already have a higher ratio of games in these formats. The role of "daily" chess, i.e. correspondence chess, is to immerse yourself in learning the game as you play. Also, where OTB chess is for beating your opponent and moving on to the next (sport primary, art/science secondary), daily chess is for playing the most perfect game you can, regardless (art and science primary, sport secondary).

If you compete against others, you will ideally only become good enough to barely beat whomever you may have the fortune to be able to play against. If you compete against yourself, i.e. researching and constructing the best possible games your skills allow for and learning as you go, then you have no upper bound.

This will be important if you should ever reach Carlsen's level ...when you are best, the only way to improve is to compete with yourself.

DiamondSparkle1001

May 31, 2017

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#28

Hi, I'm glad you asked this question. Even though I'm not a master I have some tips for you:

Try to keep a notebook for all your thoughts, ideas, and planning for games
Make sure to practice every day!
Try to learn a few tactics and checks that are useful (List them in your notebook if you want to)
Stay Positive! Don't worry about losing a game, worry about if you have learned something
Again, Practice, Practice, Practice!

I Hope this helped you! Stay positive no matter what!

DiogenesDue

May 31, 2017

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#29

jengaias wrote:

btickler wrote:

jengaias wrote:

RussBell wrote:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but in "Daily" chess, unlike "Live" chess, the use of books and databases is legal, but not human assistance or the use of chess analysis engines. This way you can study topics of immediate interest during the course of the game. I view daily chess as a learning-training opportunity. There will be some that recommend not using any resources. I disagree. I say use the resources that are legal in order to maximize your learning opportunity.

I would say don't use the resources and try to make the mistakes.Then use the resources to try to understand where you did the mistake.

The correct course is study , play , analyse your game , find your mistakes and repeat.

Study and play must be separate because study needs it's own focused time and play needs it's own.

If you mix them the results might be good but they aren't going to be optimum.

Disagree. Your OTB and Live chess play already fill this role and you will likely already have a higher ratio of games in these formats. The role of "daily" chess, i.e. correspondence chess, is to immerse yourself in learning the game as you play. Also, where OTB chess is for beating your opponent and moving on to the next (sport primary, art/science secondary), daily chess is for playing the most perfect game you can, regardless (art and science primary, sport secondary).

If you have so much time to play long time games and daily chess , then yes.

But if you don't have so much free time available then daily chess must take the role of Live chess.

The beauty of daily chess is that you always have time to squeeze it into your chess schedule, even if it's only 1 game at once at 7 days/move. Playing even a single game that you research in depth will teach you a lot. Playing single moves for days instead of minutes is very helpful. Imagine Carlsen doing a "deep think" for 20 minutes on a move close to time control...imagine how much deeper and better his understanding that particular position becomes...now imagine doing that kind of "deep think" for every move of a game.

Also, if one's goal is to improve your chance to beat that guy that always trounces you at the coffee house, then OTB and Live play are certainly paramount...if your goal is to improve tournament play, then daily chess will also help you learn to play the meta-game (the game outside the game) by helping you learn how to prep openings, research likely opponent's games, reduce blunders (in your best openings and in endgames especially), and recognize tactical and positional inaccuracies in your opponent's openings/endgames. It also teaches you the discipline to motivate research/prep, blunder checking every move, etc.

DiogenesDue

May 31, 2017

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#30

SeniorPatzer wrote:

(Question: Does written material have to be in paper format, or can it be digital? I've been told that Google is my friend, lol.)

No, it does not have to be on paper, that was an oversimplification.

Here's a good rule of thumb that is probably better than just trying to memorize the rules, because there are some grey areas:

Daily/Vote Chess allows for research using any reference materials that help you learn and help you determine for yourself what moves to make. However, as soon as you cross the line into using materials that allow you to stop thinking for yourself and sit back and let the move choices be driven externally...then you are in all likelihood in violation of the rules.

So, you can use opening books during the game(*). You can use PGNs of the latest super GM tourney for your game. You can use a database during the game (*). You can be in the middle of personal training by a GM who is teaching you to be a better overall chess player while you play. You can use an engine before and after the game. You can research that your opponent always plays the French, then prep a 50-move line you hope to trap your opponent into using your engine, print it out, and use it for the entire game. When your opponent enters a certain variation, you can go to YouTube and watch videos teaching you how to play that exact variation. You can go to YouTube to figure out how to play, for example, a rook and pawn endgame. You can research games and find perhaps the exact GM game/novelty that the opponent is following themselves, and research how to beat it.

In each case, you are gathering information that informs your own move choices.

Here's what you can't do:

- Use an engine to evaluate your position during the game or to suggest any moves, or to blunder check

- Show your daily chess game to your GM trainer, local club players, etc. and discuss the position

- Use written or digital materials that are primarily engine evaluations...this one is harder to learn/understand, but because of the exact simplification above, when people assume that any written/reference material is okay, some people try to skirt the rules. Say somebody makes a script that does engine 30-ply evaluations for all "playable" variations of the Najdorf out to 40-50 moves, then they print it out on hundreds or thousands of pages, bind it, title it "Playing the Najdorf Like an Engine", and call it a book? That's not considered an opening book. It's an exhaustive list of engine evaluations, and an attempt to circumvent the fact that an engine cannot be consulted real-time during a game. Similarly, a database of millions of amateur and professional and even some engine games played in engine vs. engine tourneys, etc. gathered up together is a perfectly legal reference...but a database someone creates by having Stockfish play itself 250,000 times using the Berlin Defense that includes a column for the engine's evaluation? Not legal. Again, the distinction is that it's not a general reference, but an exhaustive list of engine evaluations disguised as a research reference.

RussBell

May 31, 2017

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#31

SeniorPatzer wrote:

(Question: Does written material have to be in paper format, or can it be digital? I've been told that Google is my friend, lol.)

@SeniorPatzer -
For Daily chess, as long as you are not using assistance from other human beings or from chess engines (i.e., a computer program to analyze your game and calculate moves), then you can use any book, media, internet, database etc you like.

DiamondSparkle1001

Dec 28, 2017

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#32

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SeniorPatzer

Dec 28, 2017

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#33

Much thanks Btickler and Russ Bell. Apologies for the delay in thanking you both.

MickeyDeadGuys

Dec 28, 2017

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#34

Pretty sure it’s only “legal” to use the built in opening book on chess.com and when those moves run out, your own your own. Using the analysis board during the game is illegal because it will tell you “you have a current position” or some such message.

m_connors

Dec 28, 2017

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#35

Some really good tips; some I follow and others I had never even considered. I use the in-game note pad and scratch paper to jot down thoughts and expected lines of play.

Does the analysis board work during a game? I would have thought that was cheating? What does it show/provide?

m_connors

Dec 28, 2017

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#36

I missed MickeyDeadGuys comments on the analysis board. Sort of confirms my thoughts about its use. Thanks, MickeyDG.

kindaspongey

Dec 28, 2017

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#37

RothKevin

Dec 28, 2017

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#38

Take your time and make sure to look at all possible variations. Don't just make the move you think its good.

Sometimes I'll find a good move, but will come back to it a couple hours later before making it with a fresh mind and i will find something better.