Approach to Random

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SMesq
Ok so I have to admit that I like the idea of 'random' chess but dislike the random placement rules, preferring a version where the players take turns, king through to knights, placing their pieces according to -perhaps- a unified plan or in response to their opponent's placements.
 
So I tried this out with a computer, it led to an interesting game.
 
 
 
What was interesting, was that the +- score swung both ways far more dramatically than I've ever seen in a standard game with the computer playing itself. It also ended in 62 moves, rather than a protracted 200-move drawish endgame. A good sign that we humans might actually stand a chance against silicon once more?
 
Chess has had subtle changes in its rules every few centuries, personally I find the 'shuffle' piece placement -as opposed to a player controlled placement system- unpalatable, as it's like adding the element of 'chance', (which should not be added to chess IMHO) and you sometimes end up with a right stinker of a line-up.
 
Perhaps a 'random' system will eventually take off if the 'dice' are removed from the opening position?
 
Would be interested in your thoughts.
Xilmi

You mean a system where white begins to put his first piece somewhere on the first rank and black then can place his piece in response to that?

So that the game starts with setting up the board and not only after that?

I think it's a really interesting idea for a variant and will try to see if someone wants to try it out.

SMesq

@Xilmi -  Yes precisely that.  this order perhaps:  KQRRBwsqrBbsqrNN.

One could retain castling for positions where King and a rook are on correct squares [king on d1 or e1 perhaps].  You could then even play with traditional position v random if you wanted to.

I've been trying it out on some friends & my children, it's been well recieved so far!

Removes chance.  Removes theory.  Considering how engines analyse positions without a book, players secretly using a pc as a 'crutch' should stick out like the proverbial sore thumb.

SMesq

Before the battle, a general would deploy his troops according to his overall plan of attack.  Why not in 'random' chess?

A win for white this time in 69 moves.


Computer has yet to provide a 'drawn' endgame. Interesting.