Are chess streamers cheapening the game?

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Nausea-Sartre
I'm talking about chess.com streamers specifically. Nakamura, Botez and chessbrah to name a few. It's all bullet or blitz. No educational content at all. All edited the same way with the same ridiculous thumbnails and clickbait titles. This juvenile content can't be good for the game.
Nausea-Sartre

I will say John Bartholomew and Simon Williams do a stellar job with their youtube. Their hard work and effort show with their subscriber count. I believe John is at 70k while Botez is under 20k. We wamt quality content. Not clickbait trash edited by the same guy so all vids are the same.

DrunkenPawns

Agadamator..... now he is the BOMB 🔥

jjupiter6

I think the question could be extended to "Is chess.com cheapening the game?".

drmrboss
Nausea-Sartre wrote:

I will say John Bartholomew and Simon Williams do a stellar job with their youtube. Their hard work and effort show with their subscriber count. I believe John is at 70k while Botez is under 20k. We wamt quality content. Not clickbait trash edited by the same guy so all vids are the same.

Dude, streaming is personal option.

Everyone can stream whatever he/she likes and you can watch whatever you like. 

Get it? If not , please read it twice.

 

llamonade
Nausea-Sartre wrote:

I will say John Bartholomew and Simon Williams do a stellar job with their youtube.

Youtube and streaming are two different things.

Streaming is more social, it's just for fun. Sure it can be educational, but usually it's just watching someone play a game and interacting with them and the chat.

llamonade

Although this Botez person is pretty funny... a wiki page and a FIDE title, but only a 2000 rating.

Oh, that's right, how could I forget that cleavage is a thing.

Jesus ladies, if you want to be treated as equals go after people like this who (apparently) have no self respect.

Nausea-Sartre

Most of their youtube videos are just edited streams. This is a prime example of garbage content. https://youtu.be/ekMBvfeR670 Note the banal cliche overdone youtube thumbnail and ridiculous title

MiIoYiannopoulos

boohoo

Nausea-Sartre

This string dogg chap made mildy amusing compilations but when the same amateur editor starts making videos for several channels the content becomes stale and uninspiring. It cheapens the game. But then chess.com appear determined to turn chess into an esport. Lasker would be turning in his grave.

Nausea-Sartre

Thank you JB and Simon for having integrity and producing quality content. Shame on the others.

MiIoYiannopoulos

if you dont like it then dont watch lol 

Nausea-Sartre

I don't watch. But these people are sponsored by chess.com. They're throwing hundreds of years of tradition down the drain by turning chess into a game for dummies instead of the intellectual.

Praxis_Streams

How is it hurting anything? How was it any better before streaming caught on?

 

I'd argue the fire chess is catching on streaming services is fantastic for the game. Not only do you get to see the best players in the world play countless games live, it's exposing the game to a wider audience.

Nausea-Sartre

Botez and Aman are far from the best players. But that's beside the point. Compare their content to the likes of IM Eric Rosen. Chess.com - to borrow a horse racing reference - are backing donkeys.

PoldyBoom
I don’t think it cheapens anything. It’s just a different brand of chess content. It’s more the entertainment side of the game than the educational side - just avoid it and find the players that suit your style.
polardragon123

hello

blueemu

They do whatever people will watch. If people want to watch crap, then they'll do crap.

llamonade
blueemu wrote:

They do whatever people will watch. If people want to watch crap, then they'll do crap.

Yeah, they make money off of it, so it makes sense.

MadushanBDissanayake

Nausea-Sartre wrote:

I'm talking about chess.com streamers specifically. Nakamura, Botez and chessbrah to name a few. It's all bullet or blitz. No educational content at all. All edited the same way with the same ridiculous thumbnails and clickbait titles. This juvenile content can't be good for the game.

Just follow only john Bartholamew and GingerGm on youtube,Don't waste your valuable time watching other streams of other People.(Hikaru,chessbrah,botez,finegold only provide entertainment)