Are You Allowed to Refuse Someone Else's Resignation?
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Your opponent looks at you like you've grown a second head, for one
May 2, 2017
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david2525 wrote:
I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?
Yes, you're allowed to refuse an opponent's resignation.
Copied from FIDE statute 13.eleventeen.0.2 -- Section B: "...a player may refuse an opponent's resignation and compel them to finish out the game, provided the player wishing to resign isn't suffering from any sort of medical emergency or sudden personal hardship.
If the player whose resignation was refused refuses to accept the refusing player's refusal, the refusee may be (including, but not limited to) refused entry into future FIDE-sponsored events, monetarily sanctioned (for breaking rule 26.01, commonly known as the 'refusing a refuser's refusal rule'), and physically compelled to finish the game by whatever means the Arbiter and/or Tournament Director deem necessary."
May 2, 2017
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human-in-training wrote:
david2525 wrote:
I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?
Yes, you're allowed to refuse an opponent's resignation.
Copied from FIDE statute 13.eleventeen.0.2 -- Section B: "...a player may refuse an opponent's resignation and compel them to finish out the game, provided the player wishing to resign isn't suffering from any sort of medical emergency or sudden personal hardship.
If the player whose resignation was refused refuses to accept the refusing player's refusal, the refusee may be (including, but not limited to) refused entry into future FIDE-sponsored events, monetarily sanctioned (for breaking rule 26.01, commonly known as the 'refusing a refuser's refusal rule'), and physically compelled to finish the game by whatever means the Arbiter and/or Tournament Director deem necessary."
Thank you!
You can do it but don't get surprised if no one treats you well after that.
May 2, 2017
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human-in-training wrote:
david2525 wrote:
I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?
Yes, you're allowed to refuse an opponent's resignation.
Copied from FIDE statute 13.eleventeen.0.2 -- Section B: "...a player may refuse an opponent's resignation and compel them to finish out the game, provided the player wishing to resign isn't suffering from any sort of medical emergency or sudden personal hardship.
If the player whose resignation was refused refuses to accept the refusing player's refusal, the refusee may be (including, but not limited to) refused entry into future FIDE-sponsored events, monetarily sanctioned (for breaking rule 26.01, commonly known as the 'refusing a refuser's refusal rule'), and physically compelled to finish the game by whatever means the Arbiter and/or Tournament Director deem necessary."
This is just silly. What's stopping someone from forcing you to play some -30.00 ending against your will? Well it's a good thing that the mainstream isn't aware of this and that practically no one is going to claim this ruling because they'd just think that chess players are a bunch of control freaks.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if this was one of those rulings that arbiters simply do not recognize and they will adhere to common sense if anyone actually brings it up.
May 2, 2017
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Wow I actually learnt something new today! Chess.com never ceases to amaze.
What if you refuse and the person stands up and walks away from you? And they say screw totalitarian chess rules and FIDE and go get a hamburger at Wendy's and forget all about it? what will you do then?
If you did that to me, I would walk away from the table so you could get your win on time instead.
May 3, 2017
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hype1980 wrote:
If you did that to me, I would walk away from the table so you could get your win on time instead.
" [...] If the player whose resignation was refused refuses to accept the refusing player's refusal, the refusee may be (including, but not limited to) refused entry into future FIDE-sponsored events, monetarily sanctioned (for breaking rule 26.01, commonly known as the 'refusing a refuser's refusal rule'), and physically compelled to finish the game by whatever means the Arbiter and/or Tournament Director deem necessary."
Ah yes, they lock the doors and send in a man with a sharp stick don't they. I forgot about that.
May 3, 2017
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Don't worry, by the time you're done with your first tournament. You'll be hoping for a resignation from your opponent.
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ghost_of_pushwood wrote:
Can you ask someone to resign? (actually occurred in a recent game of mine)
That's about as rude as you can get. I'd string the whole game out to mate as slowly as I could if someone did that to me.
david2525 пишет:
david2525 пишет: I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?
I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?
Although experienced players may find the OP's question a little strange if not laughable, it does reveal something that we may relate to when we were young and just learning the game. I recall learning about the moves and perhaps thinking back, that the pleasure of chess was to just enjoy moving these little statues around while your 'partner', not your 'opponent', did the same thing in some sort of three dimensional dance. Recalling these very early times, I often thought about what were the aims -things just seemed random. Winning was not the major thing, as there was so much else to think about....
I just read you could refuse an opponent's resignation. Incredible! However the opponnent then says oh you want me to move ... fine ... let me walk away and think really long and hard about my next move ... in the meantime you sit here and watch my clock tick down to zero.
Refusal will get you nothing. Players are allowed to move around, and the opponent will just leave.
I want to start OTB play, but I don't want any games to end early. Am I allowed to refuse the opponent's resignation? What happens if I do?