At what rank do people stop trying scholar's mate like every 2nd game

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h1asan101

I only recently started playing and it seems every 2nd or 3rd game out comes the queen and bishop

It got me a few times at first because my only knowledge of chess is how pieces move but watching one video on how to defend against it and it's no longer a threat its just annoying now

I would rather be able to try different things instead of having of constantly defend against it

Some people even resign the match if they don't get it in the first few moves or they [mess up] up and lose the queen.

1cbb

I mean I still try it every 2nd game.

1cbb

No joke

KeSetoKaiba

Probably around 1000 rating or maybe 1200 ish Scholar's mate attempts are less common because they work less often. Also, "cheap" tries like this are tried less under longer time controls. In bullet, Scholar's Mate is a try thrown in at most all levels just because it might be missed. 10 min is the most popular time control on chess.com and I would say in a 10 min game Scholar's Mate is played much less often after 1000 rating and by 1200 rating it is almost entirely gone.

1cbb

I still play it because it's fun to make my opponent tilt when they lose to it

1cbb

It's not horrible, it's just unorthodox

Vocaloid39

I edited the original post @h1asan101 We don't use words like that in chess.com general forums.

1cbb
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

Probably around 1000 rating or maybe 1200 ish Scholar's mate attempts are less common because they work less often. Also, "cheap" tries like this are tried less under longer time controls. In bullet, Scholar's Mate is a try thrown in at most all levels just because it might be missed. 10 min is the most popular time control on chess.com and I would say in a 10 min game Scholar's Mate is played much less often after 1000 rating and by 1200 rating it is almost entirely gone.

Occasionally when I play the Wayward Queen, some people think they need to punish it very quickly and because they haven't seen it since they were beginners, I get some cheap wins from it.

100chessups

1000 rated players also play it tho less often 1300+ have almost no scholar's mate opening.

1cbb

I've managed to actually pull off the Scholar's Mate once or twice in rapid games at 2k rating.

KeSetoKaiba
1cbb wrote:
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

Probably around 1000 rating or maybe 1200 ish Scholar's mate attempts are less common because they work less often. Also, "cheap" tries like this are tried less under longer time controls. In bullet, Scholar's Mate is a try thrown in at most all levels just because it might be missed. 10 min is the most popular time control on chess.com and I would say in a 10 min game Scholar's Mate is played much less often after 1000 rating and by 1200 rating it is almost entirely gone.

Occasionally when I play the Wayward Queen, some people think they need to punish it very quickly and because they haven't seen it since they were beginners, I get some cheap wins from it.

Well yeah uncommon openings will always have a place as surprise weapons and hoping people don't know or forgot how to best play against it. GM Hikaru Nakamura famously tried the Wayward Queen attack in a long time control game (OTB) against another GM, but Nakamura was lucky to salvage a draw that game.

KeSetoKaiba
1cbb wrote:

I've managed to actually pull off the Scholar's Mate once or twice in rapid games at 2k rating.

What? Let me face those 2000 opponents; I need to recover my 2000+ rapid rating xD

x-1198923638

They don't even do it right / know more than 6-7 correct moves, just learn to refute it and it's easy money.

1cbb

People don't face the Wayward Queen much so it's pretty much a normal game after the opening stage.

1cbb
KeSetoKaiba wrote:
1cbb wrote:

I've managed to actually pull off the Scholar's Mate once or twice in rapid games at 2k rating.

What? Let me face those 2000 opponents; I need to recover my 2000+ rapid rating xD

They probably learnt the Wayward Queen when they were young and haven't played against it in many years.

idilis
Vocaloid39 wrote:

I edited the original post @h1asan101 We don't use words like that in chess.com general forums.

Evidently we do.

Why didn't the autobot catch it? It's just a trap for the rest of us to quote it and get muted.

KeSetoKaiba

I don't know if there is an autobot in forums. I think there might be for live chess or events chat, but I think they can type whatever in the forums...that doesn't mean it is acceptable though.

llama36
KeSetoKaiba wrote:
1cbb wrote:

I've managed to actually pull off the Scholar's Mate once or twice in rapid games at 2k rating.

What? Let me face those 2000 opponents; I need to recover my 2000+ rapid rating xD

OTB tournament game...

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1339053

 

llama36
KeSetoKaiba wrote:

I don't know if there is an autobot in forums. I think there might be for live chess or events chat, but I think they can type whatever in the forums...that doesn't mean it is acceptable though.

On PC there is an auto bot at least... and it can flag you if you quote someone who posted bad words on mobile... also some of the words aren't even bad, while it does allow some improper words, like I can say porn, but I can't say b o o b... makes no sense.

Once you accumulate enough infractions, you're auto muted for 24 hours and the count resets... the problem is they never disappear, so if you're active in the forums like me, then you slowly accumulate them until you're auto muted... luckily my last two auto mutes were undone by a mod who happened to notice before it had been 24 hours happy.png

dfgh123

I got muted for 24 hours for typing Andrew Tate's charges maybe it was the autobot.