Best type of game to progress?

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IntrovertedBroccoli

Hello everybody!

Couple of months ago I subscribed to the pro version of chess.com and I'm doing some exercises/lesson to improve my game. Since there are so many different types, 1 min, 2 mins, 5, 10, 1 day etc I was wondering what's the best way to progress in your game? Are 5 mins chess games more difficult for a beginners then 1 day games?

kindaspongey

"... Most internet players think that 30 5 is slow, but that is unlikely slow enough to play 'real' chess. You need a game slow enough so that for most of the game you have time to consider all your candidate moves as well as your opponent’s possible replies that at least include his checks, captures, and serious threats, to make sure you can meet all of them. For the average OTB player G/90 is about the fastest, which might be roughly 60 10 online, where there is some delay. But there is no absolute; some people think faster than others and others can play real chess faster because of experience. Many internet players are reluctant to play slower than 30 5 so you might have to settle for that as a 'slow' game." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627010008/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman12.pdf

IntrovertedBroccoli

Cool, thanks for the tips, I will leave aside blitz and bullet from now on

AyushBlundersAgain
kindaspongey wrote:

"... Most internet players think that 30 5 is slow, but that is unlikely slow enough to play 'real' chess. You need a game slow enough so that for most of the game you have time to consider all your candidate moves as well as your opponent’s possible replies that at least include his checks, captures, and serious threats, to make sure you can meet all of them. For the average OTB player G/90 is about the fastest, which might be roughly 60 10 online, where there is some delay. But there is no absolute; some people think faster than others and others can play real chess faster because of experience. Many internet players are reluctant to play slower than 30 5 so you might have to settle for that as a 'slow' game." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627010008/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman12.pdf

Instead of blurting out what someone has already said, do you have any insight of your own? Or do you just put out quotes that may not be very relevant to the topic?

AyushBlundersAgain

Try 15|10 and 30 min.

Do Tactics and be comfortable with openings so you don't burn too much time on them and you have positions you're more familiar with. Calculate a plan but also try to prevent your opponent's ideas from occurring.

fairytalelion

Green and grass. Master guys saying to play very slow forget the game has to be fun? Putting a rookie into a long game... they might get bored, lose interest? Beside, blitz can be good for learning opening types and improving feel. My favourite... l0 min. Fast and fun, but feels like real Chess? But that might be a little fast, for a rookie.

2Ke21-0
AyushMChessMator wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

"... Most internet players think that 30 5 is slow, but that is unlikely slow enough to play 'real' chess. You need a game slow enough so that for most of the game you have time to consider all your candidate moves as well as your opponent’s possible replies that at least include his checks, captures, and serious threats, to make sure you can meet all of them. For the average OTB player G/90 is about the fastest, which might be roughly 60 10 online, where there is some delay. But there is no absolute; some people think faster than others and others can play real chess faster because of experience. Many internet players are reluctant to play slower than 30 5 so you might have to settle for that as a 'slow' game." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627010008/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman12.pdf

Instead of blurting out what someone has already said, do you have any insight of your own? Or do you just put out quotes that may not be very relevant to the topic?

I completely agree. Everybody, block @Kindaspongey who is notorious for posting on forums in such manner. Please give actual insight from yourself rather than posting some copied and pasted quotes.

RussBell

to all the Spongey bashers....and those who are inclined to listen to them....

Good advice is good advice, irregardless of where it came from or how it was offered...

RussBell

Play Longer Time Controls...

For many at the beginner-novice level, speed chess tends to be primarily an exercise in moving pieces around faster than your opponent while avoiding checkmate, in hopes that his/her clock runs out sooner than yours.  Or being fortunate enough to be able to exploit your opponent’s blunders before they exploit yours.

There is little time to think about what you should be doing.

It makes sense that taking more time to think about what you should be doing would promote improvement in your chess skills.

An effective way to improve your chess is therefore to play mostly longer time controls, including "daily" chess, so you have time to think about what you should be doing.

This is not to suggest that you should necessarily play exclusively slow time controls or daily games, but they should be a significant percentage of your games, at least as much, if not more so than speed games which do almost nothing to promote an understanding of how to play the game well.

Here's what IM Jeremy Silman, well-known chess book author, has to say on the topic...
https://www.chess.com/article/view/longer-time-controls-are-more-instructive

And Dan Heisman, well-known chess teacher and chess book author…
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627052239/http:/www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman16.pdf

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/dan-heisman-resources

and the experience of a FIDE Master...
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-blitz-and-bullet-rotted-my-brain-don-t-let-it-rot-yours

AyushBlundersAgain
RussBell wrote:

to all the Spongey bashers....and those who are inclined to listen to them....

Good advice is good advice, irregardless of where it came from or how it was offered...

I disagree; one may be more inclined to listen upon experience. Mindlessly quoting others will not be effective in a person's perception of the topic. For example in your post (#11), you posted links, but you also provided an overview on how you think he should improve his chess.

Many of the times, the quote doesn't even fit the forum topic.