Bishop Pair vs Knight Pair

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stuntmanxxx

Already, ive been in soo many games where Ive had either of these pieces, two bishops or two knights, personally, i prefer, the bishops if its an open position, but lately, going against 2 knights i was brutally destroyed, "Brutally" i played decent moves, and somehow two knights crashing in was an overload, anyone have any thoughts on what i did. wrong

ViktorHNielsen

The knights have the trickadvantage, the bishops have the ¨breathing fire on the whole board¨ advantage.

The problem with the knights is that they are hard to coordinate together, and therefor they rarely work together as easily as the bishop does. Did you follow the Steinitz rule? (When playing against knights, take away their advanced outposts)

azziralc

It depends upon the situation, bishop pair is far more stronger on open position, and knights prefer closed one. :D

azziralc

...when playing against bishop, try to closed the position. If it's cannot be done, just try to have a blockade or set up a solid position.

azziralc

...when playing against the knight, try to exchange some pawns to clear the board and take advantage on the bishop pair.

ponz111

It depends on what type of position  In closed positions, often the knights are better. In open positions the bishops are better.

plutonia

If the question is specifically against the pair, then yes a bishop pair is generally superior to a knight's pair. The reason is that the bishops have synergy, while the knights are redundant.

Think of it this way: the bishops' weakness (being only on one colour) goes away if you have two of them. The knights' weakness (being short ranged) remains.

ponz111

Yes. but the synergy of this bishops weakened in closed positions and the knight's weakness of being short ranged is nullified in closed positions.

And the reverse is true in open positions.

At the very start of the game the bishops are somewhat better as it is not a closed position.  Also in the opening they have the ability to pin knights.

ViktorHNielsen

Knights working together on an open board are just crushing. But if they are not, the bishop are superior.

Chess is a team game.

MyCowsCanFly

I like the quote:

"Two bishops are worth three bishops. One bishop is worth half a bishop."

One nice thing about a pair of bishops is the potential to give up one of the bishops for important compensations.

SneckoSnek
kooltigger wrote:
 

Yes, but the two knight checkmate can't be forced.

While I'm not that experienced, I agree with what most people here have said. I tend to try to trade knights for bishops in a more open game, and the other way around in a closed game.

jesterville

When I began playing chess, I personally preferred to have the two Knights, now I have come to appreciate the two Bishops in an open position. I agree with most, that have been said...the current position should dictate which is chosen, not personal preference. Both Anand and Fischer are/were deadly with the Knights.

stuntmanxxx

is there any real good methood of forcing mate, after loosing all pieces except of course the King and 2 knights?

stuntmanxxx

and has any1 every been in a knight ending 2knights / or 1 on 1 knights

lenny000

Sometimes it depends on the players

tatabyby

I don't know why but I prefer knights in semi open positions tooo.. they can be really harmful if we r able to get them an outpost in centre of board