Bobby Fischer: Autistic, Obsessive-Compulsive, or just plain Psychopathic

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ChumpDavis123

After reading about bobby fisher, I think he might've been a maniac. Not because he may likely have been autistic, but that his obsession of chess may have influenced his thinking patterns into deeply irrational, somewhat crazy. I guess he didn't seek help from Professionals, and all he ever did was read books about chess for hours each day, including his (and one of my personal favorites) Capablanca. These two people had polar opposite personalities. Fischer had unhealthy habits, while the great Capablanca may have had an IQ of 200. Capablanca looked for simple but beautiful moves, while Bobby fischer made the most of his calculation to construct an elaborate attack on the board. So tell me, was Bobby fischer a genius, a crazy guy, a crazy genius, or just another aggressive, anti-social person who thought to himself all the time?

pgbthegr8
Can you tell me the books you read? I would like to read them too.
SamDunk722
A genius who naturally is antisocial as some people of his intelligence level are, and devoted to mastery of something that cannot be mastered, causing him to go crazy. At least that's how I see it.
fwhoberg

I don't think chess was not the only factor that contributed to his state of mind his upbringing also played that added to his paranoia.

fwhoberg

but still he played chess like one els at the time in 1955 to 1972 a true master of his craft.

BlargDragon
uscftigerprowl wrote:

There is absolutely nothing wrong or incorrect with what he stated in his later years. 

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer

No faults here?

Americu

Robert ( Bobby ) Fischer attracts Trolls like shit attracts flies.

livat01
BlargDragon wrote:

Any faults here?

  • I read a book lately by Nietzsche and he says religion is just to dull the senses of the people. I agree.
bunicula

Reading is obviously a bad idea

BlargDragon
livat01 wrote:
BlargDragon wrote:

Any faults here?

I read a book lately by Nietzsche and he says religion is just to dull the senses of the people. I agree.

Religion I guess would be analogous, both in origin and effect, to a callus on skin... at least on a personal level.

That's one quote of quite a long list. Naturally, I agree with some and disagree with some.

livat01

Quite good, this one:

"When I won the world championship, in 1972, the United States had an image of, you know, a football country, a baseball country, but nobody thought of it as an intellectual country."

BlargDragon

sorry

i can't hear you over the sound of eagles soaring high in a red, white, and blue sky

livat01

 Well, in Syria the sky looks more like this:

 

BlargDragon
livat01 wrote:

 Well, in Syria the sky looks more like this:

 

I'm sorry to hear that. Get well soon!

livat01
BlargDragon wrote:
livat01 wrote:

 Well, in Syria the sky looks more like this:

I'm sorry to hear that. Get well soon!

Thank you! 

BlargDragon
izhchtinizhyschyists wrote:

Not enough rope for you guys...

that kind of stuff is too spicy for me though

BlargDragon

He can say what he wants, and I believe all people ought to. And I'm not making a knee-jerk, closed-minded rejection of his statements on a sensationalist, ad hominem basis. Several of the things he says politically I take little or no issue with at all. My reference to wrong was strictly in regard to the accuracy of statements like this:

"They're lying bastards. Jews were always lying bastards throughout their history. They're a filthy, dirty, disgusting, vile, criminal people."

I don't accept that generalizing as he did is either acceptable or even an attempt to implicitly refer just to a Zionist movement--and certainly wasn't in the quote above. Referring to Jews universally is referring to Jews universally, and if his problem is with a specific faction, referring to them by addressing the whole throughout all of history is a tacit agreement that said faction represents the whole.

livat01

I wonder what Trump would say about Fischer if someone asked him... Can someone do that at a press conference, please? He wants to make America great again, and Bobby was, and still is, great. 

BlargDragon
livat01 wrote:

I wonder what Trump would say about Fischer if someone asked him... Can someone do that at a press conference, please? He wants to make America great again, and Bobby was, and still is, great. 

Disavow knowledge of Fischer, then recant, quote Fischer on Twitter, and blame muslim Sanders supporters for sabotaging his earpiece.

Uhohspaghettio1
uscftigerprowl wrote:

It's funny, if he didn't leave the chess world, you all would be singing praises. There is absolutely nothing wrong or incorrect with what he stated in his later years. For a supposed "crazy" guy, he was able to leave USA (Anyone crucify Korchnoi for leaving the USSR?), and he fought off an impotent attempt to extradite him back to the USA for the criminal act of playing chess against Spassky.

I agree, but one nitpick: 

You call the US attempts to extradite him "impotent", yet surely the fact that the US didn't treat him as a high level international criminal was a good thing? The very fact that the US didn't get him sooner was because they hadn't been playing hardball. You're dangerously close to stating that letting Fischer off was "impotent". Playing it cool and not tracking a targetted individual to the ends of the earth is not "impotent".

I get that you're all out there trying to put down the US, however denying sophistication or ability is not a good idea when it's not true. The US has amazing sophistication and ability. If they really wanted to they would have gotten him sooner. In my opinion "impotent" is the wrong word to use there.