Both flags down, Rapid chess FIDE rules

Hi!... so, what is the FIDE concensus now regarding this matter, I searched the web but found no definite answer.

The situation is, rapid chess, digital clock, only one arbiter, who is not watching every game. A player (A) claims a draw because both players ran out of time, both have 0 sec on the clock. The arbiter arrives and sees a flag on the side of A's clock indicating his flag fell first and player B has mating material left. What does the arbiter call? Draw or win for B? Thx, all...

OK... based on which rule?

I am acustomed with paragraph 6.11, which states that "If both flags have fallen and it is impossible to establish which flag fell first ...". From the situation I described it is possible to establish that As flag fell first. Maybe I should elaborate, to avoid further cynicism... The clauses in question in my opinion are 6.11 and A.4.c, which states that a claimant of a win on time must have time left on his clock. Nowhere (to my knowledge) is the case I am describing elaborated on.

@ Optimissed... thx for your answer but I really didn't intend this to be a poll. I would really like an elaborate answer with an explaination on how to understand the rule(s)...

It depends on whether A.3 or A.4 applies.

If A.3 applies and it is possible to determine which flag fell first then 6.9 applies.
If A.3 applies and it is not possible to determine which flag fell first then 6.11 applies.

If A.4 applies then the game is drawn.

 @ JoeFarnakle... but the problem is (still)... nowhere in A.4 does it say that if the claim for win is unsuccesful (that the claimants flag is also down), the game is a draw, it only says the claim is unsucsesful, whilst paragraph 6.11 explicitly says the game is lost IF IT CAN BE ESTABLISHED, which flag fell first.

Giving you fair warning here, you might have come to the wrong forums for that...

FIDE Arbiters' Manual 2014, (A.4.c):
"If a player claims that his opponent overstepped the allotted time and he did not stop
the clocks, and then his flag felt down before the arbiter fixed the result, the game shall
be declared a draw."

http://arbiters.fide.com/images/stories/downloads/2014/Arbiters_Manual_2014.pdf

Seems to me that A.4c covers this situation exactly. Competition rules do not apply in Rapidplay games if there isn't one arbiter for every three games.

The only way to get a win on time in that situation (rapidplay, arbiter coverage, etc) is for the claimant to stop the clock, notify the arbiter and have time remaining. Both flags are down, there is no time remaining, there wasn't an arbiter observing the game, the game is drawn.

Thx... wasn't aware of this manual... the explaination is not part of the rules, hence I didn't know about it... @MyRatingis1523, as for trolling, I just like to have argumented comments, I'm not really into "Because I said so ..." debates...

That quote from the Arbiter's Manual, is just a rewording of the same section in the actual rules. It reinforces the intent and meaning but the main rules cleanly state the situation.

The fact that one flag is more advanced than the other when the clock is seen by the arbiter does not necessarily mean that it fell first.

You can argue till you are blue in the face that in some circumstances it is possible to determine which flag fell first, but in real OTB chess, if both flags are down the arbiter invariably scores it as a draw.

 If you think it is worth wasting a few weeks of your life trying to change the customary applicaiton of the rules that is for you to decide.