Bullet. Yet again. Please explain?

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Gottfried94

I have 1600 rapid, 1500 blitz and 1000 bullet rating. Lately I've been trying to play bullet some more, but seems like 1000 is dead end. 

I decided to start checking my opponents and I realised there are 2 groups of people playing against me at 1000 rated bullet. 
50 % of them is exactly like me, 1600-1800 rapid rating, 1400-1600 blitz rating and 1000-1000 bullet.
The other 50 % have +- same, but most of the time far worse rating like 1000 bullet, 600 rapid and 500 blitz.

What does that even mean?

Gottfried94

To me that basically means, that people who at 600 rapid can't even figure out opening in 10-15 minutes, crush me in bullet in just a minute in MY OWN opening.
I am soooo confused. Is that many people actually cheating here or is there something I am missing

BentMajorBaboon
bullet is just easier
aserun

forget about bullet, it adds you nothing.. maybe a little time management practise, nothing more. bullet is for low iq, short attention span, wannabe gen zs

tygxc

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"1600-1800 rapid rating, 1400-1600 blitz rating and 1000-1000 bullet"
++ Slow with the mouse, bad at flagging & premoves
"1000 bullet, 600 rapid and 500 blitz" ++ Fast with the mouse, good at flagging & premoves

@2

"actually cheating" ++ Hard to do in bullet.

ElectricGuitarIsCool
For example I’m 740 rapid,640 blitz And 1000 bullet just cuz I’m fast and I flag.which makes a… Average player?
eric0022
Gottfried94 wrote:

To me that basically means, that people who at 600 rapid can't even figure out opening in 10-15 minutes, crush me in bullet in just a minute in MY OWN opening.

It just means that your time management needs to be brought one level up.

You win the game by checkmating your opponent, not just "know how to play opening".

sndeww

Maybe they don’t play longer controls often. Usually if your rating gap is that large, it means you’re thinking in bullet (a common mistake).

sndeww
jaded-lethargic wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:

To me that basically means, that people who at 600 rapid can't even figure out opening in 10-15 minutes, crush me in bullet in just a minute in MY OWN opening.
I am soooo confused. Is that many people actually cheating here or is there something I am missing

I don't really think people can cheat in bullet. At least not very easily. Correct me if i'm wrong.

You can. But generally speaking, it’s not the case.

eric0022
Gottfried94 wrote:

I have 1600 rapid, 1500 blitz and 1000 bullet rating. Lately I've been trying to play bullet some more, but seems like 1000 is dead end. 
I decided to start checking my opponents and I realised there are 2 groups of people playing against me at 1000 rated bullet. 
50 % of them is exactly like me, 1600-1800 rapid rating, 1400-1600 blitz rating and 1000-1000 bullet.
The other 50 % have +- same, but most of the time far worse rating like 1000 bullet, 600 rapid and 500 blitz.
What does that even mean?

In your latest two losses,

- you had 21 seconds against your opponent's four seconds, but made a large blunder

- you lost the other game quite quickly "in your opening"

FlipFlop9999

Just played a bullet tournament. The top 3 finishers had ratings of 745, 578 and 476. Getting the feeling that some players lose on purpose a lot to get the low ratings so that they can win the tournaments.

Last week I had a bullet run that had me at over 1300, now I am back down to 1000. Surprised how bad some rated over 1200 were and then can't beat some rated less than 1000

Just feels like the ratings in bullet are a bit misleading. So I get the OP's point.

Gottfried94
eric0022 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:

I have 1600 rapid, 1500 blitz and 1000 bullet rating. Lately I've been trying to play bullet some more, but seems like 1000 is dead end. 
I decided to start checking my opponents and I realised there are 2 groups of people playing against me at 1000 rated bullet. 
50 % of them is exactly like me, 1600-1800 rapid rating, 1400-1600 blitz rating and 1000-1000 bullet.
The other 50 % have +- same, but most of the time far worse rating like 1000 bullet, 600 rapid and 500 blitz.
What does that even mean?

In your latest two losses,

- you had 21 seconds against your opponent's four seconds, but made a large blunder

- you lost the other game quite quickly "in your opening"

Of course I blunder all the time, especially when I am running out of time. Thank you for telling me. Just being surprised that people with 600 rating in rapid and 700 in blitz play absolutely perfect games and make no mistakes in a minute games. What´s the point of your comment?

SamLaw47

Hello

eric0022
Gottfried94 wrote:
eric0022 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:

I have 1600 rapid, 1500 blitz and 1000 bullet rating. Lately I've been trying to play bullet some more, but seems like 1000 is dead end. 
I decided to start checking my opponents and I realised there are 2 groups of people playing against me at 1000 rated bullet. 
50 % of them is exactly like me, 1600-1800 rapid rating, 1400-1600 blitz rating and 1000-1000 bullet.
The other 50 % have +- same, but most of the time far worse rating like 1000 bullet, 600 rapid and 500 blitz.
What does that even mean?

In your latest two losses,

- you had 21 seconds against your opponent's four seconds, but made a large blunder

- you lost the other game quite quickly "in your opening"

Of course I blunder all the time, especially when I am running out of time. Thank you for telling me. Just being surprised that people with 600 rating in rapid and 700 in blitz play absolutely perfect games and make no mistakes in a minute games. What´s the point of your comment?

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The point is, you cannot expect higher rated players to always play better, or more accurately, than lower rated players.

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Though bullet chess is not exactly the best way to improve in chess, the players whom you mentioned do develop some kind of famliarity with the bullet time control. Naturally, after dozens of games, they would have known some moves (at least to not lose the same way again and again. For players who play bullet regularly, 4 seconds might be "not that short" - in fact, they could well utilise those 4 seconds well.

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Add this to the fact that these players like to "pounce" on every opportunity of hanging pieces (whether it's poisoned or not). That is why a number of 600 or 700 rated players seem to play "perfectly", since their opponents are the ones who blunder the games (and so they won't make blunders).

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That said, I'm sure you don't "blunder all the time". If you feel that you play a relatively good game, but still feel uneasy about these players, proceed to report them. In some cases, your worries might not be unfounded - it could really be that such players do not play cleanly.

ThePlayzPaidOff
aserun wrote:

forget about bullet, it adds you nothing.. maybe a little time management practise, nothing more. bullet is for low iq, short attention span, wannabe gen zs

False, bullet is better for intuition, time control, and planning effectively quickly. There is a clear difference in skill between Bullet and Classical. Classical is how far you can calculate a position or how many "reasons" you can smash into as few moves as possible, not how quick. As a result this is why Rapid/Classical is better for improvement generally, while bullet is for making edges on play sharper.

Gottfried94
jaded-lethargic wrote:

My bullet sucks

That makes two of us, but there's no reason to be sad. Bullet is not a chess game. To me chess is about thinking, planning, strategy, which is strictly forbidden in bullet. When you get to a situation where you have to stop for "a sec" to think, you may as well resign because you lost right there. And on the contrary I found out, that being down a piece or two or even a queen means nothing, I turned many games like that because my opponent was expecting me to resign at any moment, was playing poorly thinking that he's already won, I would start making passive moves, saving as much time as possible and ultimately being victorious on time by avoiding any trade for as long as possible, which is something that would never work in a real chess game.