How do you know he has never reached 2300 fide?
Can someone explain please how this kid obtained a FM title without... !?
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Nov 13, 2020
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#3
Google says incorrect:
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Google says incorrect:
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
I've actually heard of something like that , I just thought it's possible only for something not very serious like CM or NM titles.
Do you know is it only for kids this procedure or adults can also just win some tournaments(or score well) and obtain a title FM without actually gaining 2300 rating points ?
Yeah its also on the level you preform, so if in a tournament you preform at a FM level you can request to get a GM title
Nov 13, 2020
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#6
I think you can find the FIDE handbook online. I’m not an expert, I just know there are exceptions to the 2300 rule.
Nov 14, 2020
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#7
He probably won some youth tournament or had the required performance in it and got the title that way. That is why some CM-s are so weak.... they get the title early and give up improving.
Nov 14, 2020
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#8
ESP-918 wrote:
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
Google says incorrect:
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
“The usual way for a player to qualify for the FIDE Master title is by achieving an Elo rating of 2300 or more.[5] There are also many ways the title can be gained by players with a rating of at least 2100 but less than 2300; for example by scoring at least 65% over a minimum of 9 games at an Olympiad.”
I've actually heard of something like that , I just thought it's possible only for something not very serious like CM or NM titles.
Do you know is it only for kids this procedure or adults can also just win some tournaments(or score well) and obtain a title FM without actually gaining 2300 rating points ?
The FIDE regulations have a number of automatic titles, all the way up to GM.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
OK thank you very much best answer so far!
Can I ask you few more questions if you are that knowledgeable on the subject.
1. All this tournaments that you have to win (which is in handbook ) or score well in them , does it have to be Classical time controls ONLY or ..... ?
2. This guy WON 1st place most prestigious chess tournament out there , how can he not obtained a title automatically? I mean in handbook it says most of the time 1st place or gold you get title automatically, isn't it?
Here is a guy I'm talking about:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chess.com/amp/news/aydin-suleymanli-aeroflot-open
Post numver #10
Still wondering 🤔
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Does anyone know the answer to post number #10 ?
Nov 23, 2020
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#14
The tournaments that give direct titles are often regional, continental, or global championships. Winning a strong open tournament like the Aeroflot or the London Chess Classic doesn't win you a title.
AdviceCabinet wrote:
The tournaments that give direct titles are often regional, continental, or global championships. Winning a strong open tournament like the Aeroflot or the London Chess Classic doesn't win you a title.
Can you elaborate more on this please.
How are they different? Why regional, continental, global championship yes title and aeroflot open no title? Does it mean other tournaments harder, different time controls, different rules? What's the deal here?
Nov 23, 2020
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#16
Anthony won first at the pan-american u12 or u10 or u14 or something like that, which gives you the FM title.
Nov 23, 2020
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#17
ESP-918 wrote:
AdviceCabinet wrote:
The tournaments that give direct titles are often regional, continental, or global championships. Winning a strong open tournament like the Aeroflot or the London Chess Classic doesn't win you a title.
Can you elaborate more on this please.
How are they different? Why regional, continental, global championship yes title and aeroflot open no title? Does it mean other tournaments harder, different time controls, different rules? What's the deal here?
That is the way it is. That is why there are some titled players with low elo ratings. They play some regional youth tournament which gives them a title automatically. Sometimes that tournament is not that strong because there are no strong players in the same region. That way someone with lower rating gets CM for instance.
Look at it this way. You have norm for Olympic games. There are often participants which wouldn't qualify if not for the fact that they come from countries in which there are no world class athletes in that discipline. By doing that they are promoting a sport in that country. I believe this might be somewhat similar.
Nov 23, 2020
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#18
nklristic wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:
AdviceCabinet wrote:
The tournaments that give direct titles are often regional, continental, or global championships. Winning a strong open tournament like the Aeroflot or the London Chess Classic doesn't win you a title.
Can you elaborate more on this please.
How are they different? Why regional, continental, global championship yes title and aeroflot open no title? Does it mean other tournaments harder, different time controls, different rules? What's the deal here?
That is the way it is. That is why there are some titled players with low elo ratings. They play some regional youth tournament which gives them a title automatically. Sometimes that tournament is not that strong because there are no strong players in the same region. That way someone with lower rating gets CM for instance.
Look at it this way. You have norm for Olympic games. There are often participants which wouldn't qualify if not for the fact that they come from countries in which there are no world class athletes in that discipline. By doing that they are promoting a sport n that country. I believe this might be somewhat similar.
FIDE recently implemented this thing where you need minimum 2000 FIDE to get a FIDE title from a regional/continental/global championship event.
Nov 23, 2020
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#19
FIDE does this as a money making operation. If you win your regional youth tournament, like the Pan American U10 mentioned above, you automatically get the title. This encourages people to pay the entry fee. I believe there are a few U8 tourneys where the winner gets a title. You get 1300 rated players with a title. It's a joke.
Nov 23, 2020
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#20
iofferyoutoresign wrote:
nklristic wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:
AdviceCabinet wrote:
The tournaments that give direct titles are often regional, continental, or global championships. Winning a strong open tournament like the Aeroflot or the London Chess Classic doesn't win you a title.
Can you elaborate more on this please.
How are they different? Why regional, continental, global championship yes title and aeroflot open no title? Does it mean other tournaments harder, different time controls, different rules? What's the deal here?
That is the way it is. That is why there are some titled players with low elo ratings. They play some regional youth tournament which gives them a title automatically. Sometimes that tournament is not that strong because there are no strong players in the same region. That way someone with lower rating gets CM for instance.
Look at it this way. You have norm for Olympic games. There are often participants which wouldn't qualify if not for the fact that they come from countries in which there are no world class athletes in that discipline. By doing that they are promoting a sport n that country. I believe this might be somewhat similar.
FIDE recently implemented this thing where you need minimum 2000 FIDE to get a FIDE title from a regional/continental/global championship event.
If that is true it is probably a good thing. However the fact is that there are some 1 400, 1 500 rated people with a title.
Without ever reaching 2300 FIDE rating , which is a MUST to obtain a FM title.
Am I missing something?
https://ratings.fide.com/profile/2623897/calculations