Can someone please explain 'Stalemate ' as I'm totally confused.

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ComplexFireworks

Everytime I seem to checkmate an opponent (usually with superior numbers) I'm getting stalemate as apposed to checkmate. Yet when I'm down to just my king I lose by checkmate.  Please explain?

lioncat0

Why is it simpler to

1. Navigate to chess.com
2. Make a chess.com account
3. Log in to chess.com
4. Navigate to chess.com forums
5. Make a topic asking the question

vs

1. Google "stalemate vs checkmate chess"

Lagomorph

Checkmate is when one player is able to check the opponent's King, and:

1. that king is not able to move out of check (note he cannot move to a square that is under attack), or

2. put another piece in between his King and the checking piece, or

3. capture the checking piece.

Stalemate is when it is one player to move, he is NOT in check, but has no legal moves. This means that his King cannot move to any adjacent square, because doing so would put himself in check (which would be illegal).
If the player can move another piece, then it is not stalemate.

lioncat0
Lagomorph wrote:

Checkmate is when one player is able to check the opponents King, and:

1. that king is not able to move out of check (note he cannot move to a square that is under attack), or

2. put another piece in between his King and the checking piece, or

3. capture the checking piece.

Stalemate is when it is one player to move, he is NOT in check, but has no legal moves. This will usually mean that his King cannot move to any adjacent square, because doing so would put himself in check (which would be illegal).
If the player can move another piece, then it is not stalemate.

Give a man a fish and feed him for a day...

SupernovaUK
lioncat0 wrote:

Why is it simpler to

1. Navigate to chess.com
2. Make a chess.com account
3. Log in to chess.com
4. Navigate to chess.com forums
5. Make a topic asking the question

vs

1. Google "stalemate vs checkmate chess"

isn't this the point of the chess.com community? One thing I've noticed recently as more new players come to the game is a very confrontational community. Calm down, take a deep breath, and either answer the question or leave. The same people who preach about how they want the community to grow are the same people scaring off new members!

Lagomorph
ComplexFireworks wrote:

Please explain?

Further to my post above, in this game https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/6158062829 you left your opponent with no legal move,and he was NOT in check, so it is stalemate, a draw.

In this game https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/6148027529 you were in check and you had no legal move to get out of check. So checkmate and a win for your opponent.

Hope this has helped.

 

Slow_pawn
Hey ComplexFireworks. Stalemates are part of the game. You have to consider it always, usually near the end of the game. Basically the king always needs to move if there is no other piece. You can’t forfeit your turn so it’s part of the game to always keep your king mobile. There isn’t anyone in this forum that hasn’t messed up and put themselves in stalemate at one time or another.
Jenium
ComplexFireworks wrote:

Everytime I seem to checkmate an opponent (usually with superior numbers) I'm getting stalemate as apposed to checkmate. Yet when I'm down to just my king I lose by checkmate.  Please explain?

Stalemate is when you don't have a legal move, but are NOT in check. The result is a draw.

jacob12311224

its when youre opponent cant move anywhere because when king moves somwhere its open check

NikkiLikeChikki
The only ways to win are to 1. Checkmate your opponent. 2. Your opponent resigns. 3. Your opponent loses by forfeit.

If your opponent is not in check but cannot legally make a move, it’s impossible to checkmate so the game cannot continue. Since you cannot checkmate and your opponent can’t move, a draw is the only possible outcome.
SupernovaUK
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
The only ways to win are to 1. Checkmate your opponent. 2. Your opponent resigns. 3. Your opponent loses by forfeit.

If your opponent is not in check but cannot legally make a move, it’s impossible to checkmate so the game cannot continue. Since you cannot checkmate and your opponent can’t move, a draw is the only possible outcome.

well explained

nereeren

Stalemate happens when you have no legal move but you are not in check. Some examples of stalemates:

 

NikkiLikeChikki
I like to think of it this way: imagine in a battle that one side has an overwhelming force and could easily crush the opponent in an open battle. Imagine, though, that the side that is much weaker is cornered, but in a completely defensible position and every attempt at breaking the position fails. Eventually, the stronger force gives up and leaves. The battle is a draw.
RussBell

stalemate...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalemate#:~:text=Stalemate%20is%20a%20situation%20in,game%20ends%20as%20a%20draw.

checkmate vs stalemate...

https://www.dummies.com/games/chess/understanding-check-checkmate-and-stalemate-in-chess/

http://www.chessfornovices.com/understandingcheckmateinchess3.html

Moonwarrior_1
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
I like to think of it this way: imagine in a battle that one side has an overwhelming force and could easily crush the opponent in an open battle. Imagine, though, that the side that is much weaker is cornered, but in a completely defensible position and every attempt at breaking the position fails. Eventually, the stronger force gives up and leaves. The battle is a draw.

Lol good description 

Strangemover

 

Strangemover

The reason that stalemates like this happen is because of poor technique in completely winning positions. See here your last game drawn by stalemate...

1. You had queen, rook and bishop vs no pieces for your opponent. This is more than enough material to give checkmate but instead you pushed a pawn and promoted it to another queen uneccesarily.

2. 43.Qf6# checkmate but instead you captured another pawn on c4 which again is unnecessary. You don't need to win more material if you can win by checkmate.

If you are up a lot of material go directly for checkmate, other things are pointless and increase the risk of allowing stalemate. Practice how to checkmate with various combinations of pieces vs a lone king. Leave your opponent with 1 or 2 useless pawn if you can. Proceed by giving check on every move if you can. Play with care so you don't undo all the good play which got you to an easily winning position. 

ComplexFireworks

Thank you lagamorph, nikki' and slow pawn. I think I understand it now. Its the chess equivalent of trying to explain the offside rule or like a re-rack in a game of pool. 

ComplexFireworks

@supernova UK, thanks for responding to that grouch. Hey,  it's lockdown part 2. I'm still learning. 

SupernovaUK
ComplexFireworks wrote:

@supernova UK, thanks for responding to that grouch. Hey,  it's lockdown part 2. I'm still learning. 

no problemo. we all have to start somewhere