if you win a race on your feet against car, then magnus will beat stockfish 
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen
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Jul 24, 2022
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#23
There is CARLSEN VS STOCKFISH! CHEATING Against Magnus Carlsen in Blitz Game (Youtube video) where Magnus Carlsen doesn't use any anti-computer technique and he proves that he is capable of potentially drawing games with white against Stockfisch.
Otherwise in my opinion [almost sure] even an old program like Fritz 5.32 or Frtiz 6 even without its opening encyclopedia can beat and is stronger than any human in blitz (3m, 5m, 3m+2s per move)
[and if humain uses an anti-computer technique he only testifies to the superiority of the computer because being weaker he is obliged to look for failures in the programming of the program to finally win by playing badly but as it is a chess program not well enough programmed, that can work].
There is a Youtube video where we can see Maxime Vachier-Lagrave (who is or was blitz champion in 3m+2s per move) lose against a 2100 bot from Komodo in 5m+5s so even if it's not the case in many video games, in chess bots can be very efficient to win or not to lose.
Jul 24, 2022
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#24
MegaChessHunter wrote:
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen?
Beat him at what? I'm pretty sure Magnus would win a footrace, or a dance competition. Magnus would probably win a swim race too.
Can Magnus win a checkers game though?
yes but some think that carlsen can maybe draw 1 game but its hard..
MegaChessHunter wrote:
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen?
Everyone has been off topic so far. I, however, would guess that Carsen is not beast enough to take on fish.
Aug 5, 2022
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#28
It's interesting that at world championship level the ability to draw on demand seems rather refined. It would be interesting to see how a top engine circumvented the most single-minded attempt to draw. Carlsen has quite a lot of that ability himself, finding a small positional advantage in a relatively simplified position and then wrangling it into a win.
#23 this is ridicolous, of course his opponent wasn't cheating for every move
Aug 23, 2022
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#30
Yes, the more interesting question is - if they played 100 games, how many draws would Magnus get?
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen? It really depends on the hardware. All modern chess programs take advantage of the newest CPU and GPU in conducting searches. If you use a good old 80286 with 16K RAM, the answer is no. It will take an entire blitz game to decide upon one move, I suppose. It is all about memory and computing speed. Nothing special. Of course, modern search algorithms are much stronger in the sense that they take advantage of the new hardware design that specializes in doing some calculations. As Bobby Fisher once said, chess is really a game of memory. In the old days, they talked about openings, mid game, and end game. For computer chess engines, it is like openings, openings, openings, strategic rules and searching speed. An opening theory for a chess engine is probably about like the first 30 moves ahead or more. With all the probability of winning for each move being KNOWN these days, very soon it will be openings, openings, openings, openings, ... , then finally searching speed. Every move has a best response. If you can memorize all the best responses, you will win or at least make a draw. Image if you can implant some RAM and the best GPU into Carlsen's head, you still think he cannot beat stockfish?
Nowadays it is almost impossible to beat a modern PC with a top chess engine even using another top PC with a top engine. Just look to the results in top chess correspondence competitions. Almost 100% of the games are draws and the rare wins decide the tournaments and become suspicious of being fixed results.
Sep 5, 2022
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#33
MegaChessHunter wrote:
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen?
No, because Magnus Carsen does not exist
Sep 5, 2022
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#34
B1ZMARK wrote:
MegaChessHunter wrote:
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen?
No, because Magnus Carsen does not exist
dude
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MegaChessHunter wrote:
can stockfish beat Magnus Carsen?
No, because Magnus Carsen does not exist
*some guy named "Magnus Carsen" joins the chat*
It is near to impossible for a any human to ever beat stockfish 14. Magnus has no chance as the Elo difference between them is significant. Magnus Carlsen at is peak had an elo of 2881, while Stockfish 14 has an elo of 3500. He probably wouldn't be able to draw a game of chess and winning is obviously far to reach.
May 26, 2023
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#38
Who is Magnus Carsen? I've heard of Magnus Carlsen, but not Magnus Carsen!
May 26, 2023
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#39
KieferSmith wrote:
Who is Magnus Carsen? I've heard of Magnus Carlsen, but not Magnus Carsen!
It's called a typo.
Ten years ago we reached the point where asking that question is about the same as asking if Usain Bolt beat...a car. Now it really doesn't occur to us that it's even debatable. Stockfish isn't used for competition now. It's used as the ANSWER to what we should do or what we should have done. It's a training partner. But no, Magnus, playing stockfish 14 on modern hardware, say a 2021 gaming computer, could play it as many times as he could for the rest of his life, and he'd never beat Stockfish. It's in an entirely different universe of strength. Grandmasters have no hope against computers anymore.
You dont think if Magnus played a strategic game where he locked position that he could draw?
That used to be possible 20 years ago, as shown by Garry Kasparov. But no, unfortunately, the engine is much better than Magnus and he will get destroyed.
Of course any human has 0% chance of beating an engine, but when it comes to draws, it's not that simple. With 'default settings', a draw is not completely out of question. If you can get the computer to get into some drawish lines early on, then a strong grandmaster can hold a draw. It has been done before ( https://chessable.com/blog/alphazero-google-david-howell-draw/ ). There is also an interesting discussion on this on Quora. For example, even I can draw a drawn K+P vs K endgame against Stockfish, but Stockfish won't let me get there. And what is for me a drawn K+P vs K endgame, for a super GM it may be a certain position out of the Berlin opening. Of course this can be avoided by the engine by having built-in settings to avoid such situations against humans. Stockfish, for example, has a 'contempt' setting that lets it avoid drawish positions (that is, the computer will go for a slightly worse but unbalancing move in such situations, because it will beat any human from an unbalanced position, even if it initially evaluates it as worse). So yes, if a top engine knows that it's playing against a human, and is not forced to play from pre-determined positions (like in computer chess competitions), then it will win every time. The fact that it can't be drawn is just not as obvious as it may appear at first sight, because depending on the position it may be forced.
right well thats what i was wondering. lets say Stockfish and Magnus play a game with no set position, just a normal game, and Magnus tries to play a game where all the pawns get locked.
IF he does achieve that, I think Magnus would have the skill to draw it. Although in saying that, If it were to happen, I think Magnus would lose quite a few games before he could make one of those draws happen.