As Michael Jordan once said: "It ain't braggin' if you can back it up."
True. The unvarnished truth is often not diplomatic. Still, it si not always flattering to the truth teller.
Carlsen's opinion on Vladimir Kramnik
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handsome player !
Champion Chess egos have few humble members.
Ha, ha. Very funny (slow clap). Also, what are the chances of a) the best chess player in the world finishing last in a tournament, and b) Carlsen growing a beard?😐
I had underestimated Carlsen's arrogance.
Nice Post!
"Magnus pisses me off so much, with this dumb attitude and thinking he has the right to trash talk every other player. Even if he is a very good player, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT!"
And who is SisterWigSnatched, who thinks that they get to say what rights people have?
Magnus Carlsen may not be a world class diplomat, but anyone who has ever seem Kramnik try to dominate post-game analysis, even interrupting or talking over his opponent, recognizes a germ of truth in Carlsen's description
What Carlsen said is simply his opinion, and everyone has a right to their opinion!
Laskersnephew написал:
"Magnus pisses me off so much, with this dumb attitude and thinking he has the right to trash talk every other player. Even if he is a very good player, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT!"
And who is SisterWigSnatched, who thinks that they get to say what rights people have?
Magnus Carlsen may not be a world class diplomat, but anyone who has ever seem Kramnik try to dominate post-game analysis, even interrupting or talking over his opponent, recognizes a germ of truth in Carlsen's description
But does Kramnik trash talk people over Twitter? Last I checked interrupting wasn't near as bad as trash talking and being a brat. Also I don't have the right to say what rights people do have, but I completely have the right to say that trash talking is bad.
Justs99171 написал:
SisterWigSnatched wrote:
Laskersnephew написал:
"Magnus pisses me off so much, with this dumb attitude and thinking he has the right to trash talk every other player. Even if he is a very good player, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT!"
And who is SisterWigSnatched, who thinks that they get to say what rights people have?
Magnus Carlsen may not be a world class diplomat, but anyone who has ever seem Kramnik try to dominate post-game analysis, even interrupting or talking over his opponent, recognizes a germ of truth in Carlsen's description
But does Kramnik trash talk people over Twitter? Last I checked interrupting wasn't near as bad as trash talking and being a brat. Also I don't have the right to say what rights people do have, but I completely have the right to say that trash talking is bad.
I don't understand where attacking one person's bad behavior is defense of another. Is it possible for us to condemn both players bad behavior without condemning them as people?
I'm sure Carlsen and Kramnik are both decent people. I don't condone Carlsen's remarks about Kramnik's retirement. I don't see how attacking Kramnik's behavior excuses Magnus Carlsen's lack of class in the matter.
I get what you are trying to say, but this thread is about his behavior.
Feb 11, 2019
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Debistro wrote:
Which World Champion was considered "humble"? That is probably a better question to ask.
First two names popped into my head were Euwe and Spassky. (Boris once began a standing ovation for Fischer, Bobby beat him so beautifully.)
Next two were Anand and Smyslov.
Some softer-spoken champions were Karpov and Capablanca. Arguable if that translates as "humble" or not.
If you read Jan Timman's great book "Timmans Titans," he describes how extraordinarily self-confident and assertive Karpov was in post-mortem discussions, even before he became world champion. And Capablanca was famed for his tremendous self-confidence. Some called it arrogance, but everybody remarked on Capa's confidence
Markle schreef:
What Carlsen said is simply his opinion, and everyone has a right to their opinion!
Exactly, and I fully agree with Magnus. Many world champions I consider as much better then Kramnik.
His victory against Kasparov who was a friend of him and liked him to become the new champion does not convice me very much. To me Capablanca , Aljechin , Tal , Fischer , Karpov, Kasparov, Anand and Carlsen to me all are greater champions then Kramnik.
Feb 11, 2019
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#34
Near any WC will inevitably have an ego, near any successful person will have an ego... some cover better than others? you think Federer or Nadal don't have huge ego?
kramnik does come across as smug and pompous... and i agree the wild card should be dropped... the naka stuff is mostly banter?
Carlsen can't win perhap... if he doesn't comment he is boring robot... if he does he is spoilt brat?!
dum_s256 написал:
i technically never really knew about vladimir kranik until i saw this post.
Shame on you
Feb 12, 2019
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#38
I know that he is arrogant but interestingly there is quite many arrogant chess players in general, and many grandmasters who are arrogant. I am saying this to comment about people who play chess, not to give Magnus Carlsen excuses.
For example the other strong player whom Magnus played was Karjakin. I listened to Karjakin give interviews and that guy was unbelievably arrogant as well. I mean like to the point of me wanting to punch him in his face. Also Karjakin used chess as platform to voice his politics opinions which I strongly disliked.
For example the other strong player whom Magnus played was Karjakin. I listened to Karjakin give interviews and that guy was unbelievably arrogant as well. I mean like to the point of me wanting to punch him in his face. Also Karjakin used chess as platform to voice his politics opinions which I strongly disliked.
Feb 12, 2019
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Drawgood wrote:
I know that he is arrogant but interestingly there is quite many arrogant chess players in general, and many grandmasters who are arrogant. I am saying this to comment about people who play chess, not to give Magnus Carlsen excuses.
For example the other strong player whom Magnus played was Karjakin. I listened to Karjakin give interviews and that guy was unbelievably arrogant as well. I mean like to the point of me wanting to punch him in his face. Also Karjakin used chess as platform to voice his politics opinions which I strongly disliked.
For example the other strong player whom Magnus played was Karjakin. I listened to Karjakin give interviews and that guy was unbelievably arrogant as well. I mean like to the point of me wanting to punch him in his face. Also Karjakin used chess as platform to voice his politics opinions which I strongly disliked.
Sounds like Kasparov.
Magnus pisses me off so much, with this dumb attitude and thinking he has the right to trash talk every other player. Even if he is a very good player, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT!
I myself have met Magnus in real life, and he ignored me completely when I wanted a picture. Another thing he did in the same tournament when I was watching him and the other players, (Norway Chess, which is extremely close to where I live) is that when he sat down to talk to NRK (news), he said "Jeg gidder ikke mer av dette!" (I can't take this no more!) Where you goin' with this bratty attitude sis?