Castling does not protect my king, it traps my king.

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Justjoe9074
I’m generally not going to castle anymore....my king ALWAYS ends up trapped and these nerds mate me easily. Who’s idea was that castling was good!
tipish

yups. ppl wait you should castle so they can castle the other side and pawn storm you. its not simple.

Justjoe9074
Again “nerds”
tipish

JustJackinIt wrote:

LOL ok, see how well not castling works out for you. It's not like castling is the most basic building block of good chess strategy. There are myriad ways to stop pawn storms. Don't blame the strategy of castling, blame your inability to play proper defense.

yups I admit I have lots of room to learn. but but this strategy works alot. even I destroyed higher rated players by pawn storming and castling the other side. sometimes I can defend and sometimes I get destroyed.... Maybe the best solution is to learn from Magnus and Fabi in game 12.... ask for the draw early on...

Pulpofeira

If your king is stuck in the center, and you are behind in development, you are doomed.

tipish

Pulpofeira wrote:

If your king is stuck in the center, and you are behind in development, you are doomed.

That's true too. That's why I wrote its not simple. and rather talked about castling queen side and pawn storming. its not simple. there is not one answer for everything. like if you castle king side your king should be safe... no and no.

IMKeto
Justjoe9074 wrote:
I’m generally not going to castle anymore....my king ALWAYS ends up trapped and these nerds mate me easily. Who’s idea was that castling was good!

The act of castling is not your issue.  Now knowing what to do is.  I looked at some of your games where you castled, and lost, and i can tell you its the same ole story:

1.  Youre not following opening principles.

2. Youre missing simple tactics.

3. Youre hanging material.

You work on those3 things, and your "issues" with castling will go away.

tipish

IMBacon wrote:

Justjoe9074 wrote:
I’m generally not going to castle anymore....my king ALWAYS ends up trapped and these nerds mate me easily. Who’s idea was that castling was good!

The act of castling is not your issue.  Now knowing what to do is.  I looked at some of your games where you castled, and lost, and i can tell you its the same ole story:

1.  Youre not following opening principles.

2. Youre missing simple tactics.

3. Youre hanging material.

You work on those3 things, and your "issues" with castling will go away.

everybody can blunder. now look at my games too. thanks in advance.

brorael357
Castling protects the king period
joe-pechi

castling when its not needed its a passive move, you should have some sort of tactic at first then you are ready to bring your king to the safety to start to attack

TheCalculatorKid

this was the first real thing I learnt how to defend. in my experience, way over half the people who follow the queenside castle strategy don't actually understand the principles behind their attack, so as soon as you see them setting up the queenside all you need to do is advance pawns on their queenside, that way you can "win the race" and attack with your pawns first.

Destroyer942

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

this was the first real thing I learnt how to defend. in my experience, way over half the people who follow the queenside castle strategy don't actually understand the principles behind their attack, so as soon as you see them setting up the queenside all you need to do is advance pawns on their queenside, that way you can "win the race" and attack with your pawns first.

Good strategic idea, but it is often easier or faster to attack on the kingside, so sometimes this is easier said then done.

Destroyer942

Justjoe9074 wrote:

I’m generally not going to castle anymore....my king ALWAYS ends up trapped and these nerds mate me easily. Who’s idea was that castling was good!

I like your thinking, although most people don't. My advice for you would be to castle after your opponent, preferably on the same side. That way you greatly limit the possibility of them conducting a pawn storm. However, at the lower ratings you might get opponents who don't castle at all, in which case you should absolutely castle quickly and attack their king in the center. Also always be alert when your opponent develops their queen early. If you didn't castle their could be surprises in store for you.

Deranged

No offence mate but you've played thousands of blitz games on this site, and in all that time, the highest rating you've ever achieved at any point is 1162. You've also attempted puzzle rush dozens of times and the highest you've ever scored is 10.

If you want to actually get decent at chess, you should follow all the basic principles, instead of trying to argue that they're bad. Castling is not bad.

Take a look at this 10 minute game you played recently, where you broke basically every principle:

 

The reason you lost is because:

1) You didn't develop your pieces - this is a very common mistake amongst beginners, who love to make lots of useless pawn moves in the opening instead of getting their pieces out.

2) You moved your f pawn early on - this is bad because it exposes your king.

3) You moved the same piece multiple times during the opening.

4) You missed really simple tactics and left pieces hanging.

5) You didn't get your king to safety because you didn't castle fast enough.

In summary, you lost because you broke basic chess principles. If you follow the simple advice that people give you, that will easily get you to 1200+ rating.

TheCalculatorKid

Destroyer942 wrote:

TheCalculatorKid wrote:

this was the first real thing I learnt how to defend. in my experience, way over half the people who follow the queenside castle strategy don't actually understand the principles behind their attack, so as soon as you see them setting up the queenside all you need to do is advance pawns on their queenside, that way you can "win the race" and attack with your pawns first.

Good strategic idea, but it is often easier or faster to attack on the kingside, so sometimes this is easier said then done.

not the case at all. castling queenside takes longer than a kingside castle. so in the extra time it takes, you can advance the queenside pawns when you see the castle being set up. this means the queen pawns will slay the dragon first.

Trexler3241

Sometimes you don’t need to castle...

batgirl
joe-pechi wrote:

castling when its not needed its a passive move, you should have some sort of tactic at first then you are ready to bring your king to the safety to start to attack

While every situation must be individually evaluated and the appropriate action taken, castling is more than creating a nest for your king.  Castling puts one rook immediately into play and usually connects the two rooks.  So, castling can be seen as both a defensive and an offensive move.  I'm not sure I'd consider it passive under more conditions.

TheCalculatorKid

Trexler3241 wrote:

Sometimes you don’t need to castle...

why sac the bishop and put yourself behind?

Trexler3241
TheCalculatorKid wrote:

 

Trexler3241 wrote:

 

Sometimes you don’t need to castle...

 

why sac the bishop and put yourself behind?

 

I was talking about black’s position. I was just showing why you should never sacrifice early to expose the king.

joe-pechi
batgirl wrote:
joe-pechi wrote:

castling when its not needed its a passive move, you should have some sort of tactic at first then you are ready to bring your king to the safety to start to attack

While every situation must be individually evaluated and the appropriate action taken, castling is more than creating a nest for your king.  Castling puts one rook immediately into play and usually connects the two rooks.  So, castling can be seen as both a defensive and an offensive move.  I'm not sure I'd consider it passive under more conditions.

 

completely agree with you, developing minor pieces assap is in the priority