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NicolasLaine04
I've studied chess sometimes 12 hours a day, studied theory every day, done puzzles every day (just hit 3100), but it seems like a large majority of my opponents even in the 1100-1200 range in blitz are outcalculating me easily. These people usually have suspicious timings, no memberships, new accounts, and their play-style can change suddenly to fit the needs of the position (especially after getting into a losing position). The problem I have is that these dishonorable and disgraceful people cause a lot of discouragement for me, and I know that this is what they want (Keep gooning to my pain, cheaters), but I feel that chess.com is not doing enough to prevent this type of cheating. The fact that I have a 3100 puzzle rating, an IQ of 136 (top 0.8%), and I practice for HOURS every day, and STILL my blitz and rapid rating just keeps dropping.. Just stupid. Is anyone else experiencing this, and does anyone have advice in case it isn't related to cheating?
Fetorenczi
Inb4thelock
Lebowski_Plays_Chess
Yes. Lots!
Lebowski_Plays_Chess
There a lot of bot accounts that attack the site. There are free accounts that blatantly cheat. There are fake accounts from high rated trolls that like beating up on normies. Chess.com has a huge problem and they are moving way too slow to fix it.
BigChessplayer665
LordNicoPico wrote:
I've studied chess sometimes 12 hours a day, studied theory every day, done puzzles every day (just hit 3100), but it seems like a large majority of my opponents even in the 1100-1200 range in blitz are outcalculating me easily. These people usually have suspicious timings, no memberships, new accounts, and their play-style can change suddenly to fit the needs of the position (especially after getting into a losing position). The problem I have is that these dishonorable and disgraceful people cause a lot of discouragement for me, and I know that this is what they want (Keep gooning to my pain, cheaters), but I feel that chess.com is not doing enough to prevent this type of cheating. The fact that I have a 3100 puzzle rating, an IQ of 136 (top 0.8%), and I practice for HOURS every day, and STILL my blitz and rapid rating just keeps dropping.. Just stupid. Is anyone else experiencing this, and does anyone have advice in case it isn't related to cheating?

Honestly tactics in game and puzzles are two different things just because your good at "puzzles " does not mean you play good tactics in game your issue might not be calculating but it might be getting the right tactics during your games you might be playing bad lines or just calculating bad moves which would get you bad tactics (of course there more to it than that )

Like I'm only 2800-2900 puzzles yet 2200+ blitz most days

BigChessplayer665
LordNicoPico wrote:
I've studied chess sometimes 12 hours a day, studied theory every day, done puzzles every day (just hit 3100), but it seems like a large majority of my opponents even in the 1100-1200 range in blitz are outcalculating me easily. These people usually have suspicious timings, no memberships, new accounts, and their play-style can change suddenly to fit the needs of the position (especially after getting into a losing position). The problem I have is that these dishonorable and disgraceful people cause a lot of discouragement for me, and I know that this is what they want (Keep gooning to my pain, cheaters), but I feel that chess.com is not doing enough to prevent this type of cheating. The fact that I have a 3100 puzzle rating, an IQ of 136 (top 0.8%), and I practice for HOURS every day, and STILL my blitz and rapid rating just keeps dropping.. Just stupid. Is anyone else experiencing this, and does anyone have advice in case it isn't related to cheating?

iq does not mean your good at chess no offense maybe higher IQ people might have a (correlation ) of being good at chess but that doesn't signify anythything

Also I have played chess almost 12 hours a day before but I have NEVER studied twelve hours a day if your spending that much time yet you think you sent improving /your opponents are cheating your doing something VERY wrong 

BigChessplayer665
Deslising wrote:

I don't understand the purpose of cheating in random games. Of course, cheating makes sense in a money prize tournaments but in random games Chess com will ban your account for cheating. Learn chess slowly and naturally.

Some people learn chess fast but yes there's no point to cheating

BigChessplayer665

Also elo isn't linear it has a percentile your improvement will not be linear either there will be ups and downs

"the position (especially after getting into a losing position). The problem I have is that these dishonorable and disgraceful people cause a lot of discouragement for me, and I know that this is what they want (Keep gooning to my pain, cheaters)"

im sorry to break it to you but you problem is not cheaters your holding yourself down yes there are cheaters ,but cheating is not an excuse for why you SUCK at a game 

Also when you try new things out you are more likely to lose alot at first(unless y works really really well it will usually not work the first time you have to practice ) so maybe instead of focusing on cheaters focus on not being salty when you lose and trying to learn from it 

mikewier

Doing puzzles has very little to do with playing chess. Yes, it can reach you some basic tactics. But after you have learned the basics, doing additional puzzles does nothing except help you to do puzzles faster. 

remember, in a real chess game, no one is there to tell you that there is a tactic that wins. 

also, working puzzles does not hel you learn to get positions in which a tactical trick may be available. 

my advice is, after you have done a hundred or so puzzles, stop and use your time to study chess more productively.

BigChessplayer665
mikewier wrote:

Doing puzzles has very little to do with playing chess. Yes, it can reach you some basic tactics. But after you have learned the basics, doing additional puzzles does nothing except help you to do puzzles faster.

remember, in a real chess game, no one is there to tell you that there is a tactic that wins.

also, working puzzles does not hel you learn to get positions in which a tactical trick may be available.

my advice is, after you have done a hundred or so puzzles, stop and use your time to study chess more productively.

I just do puzzles to learn checkmate patterns lmao that's true tho no one is here to tell you what wins and loses in a chess game but In puzzles there's "always" a winning solution honestly I just use puzzles to relax when I'm tilted at chess

pcalugaru

The biggest issue with Chess.com is there are huge blocks of players around certain rating plateaus.. To get above the scrum one is in ... you have to play at a much higher elo. This can be frustrating ... can also appear like people are cheating, because the compition these blocks cause.

Good thing is, you only get good by playing good opponents ... and here the pond is uber huge compared to other chess servers.

When I studying opening theory I don't do a lot of tactical exercises .. so my limited form goes to the dogs.

I agree tactics alone is not the answer, you have to play against opponents. Also I'm firm believer in practicing in time controls that are constructive to formulating good techniques.

If I play blitz all the time I start getting lazy & my technique takes a dump.

BigChessplayer665
pcalugaru wrote:

When I studying opening theory I don't do a lot of tactical exercises .. so my limited form goes to the dogs.

I agree tactics alone is not the answer, you have to play against opponents. Also I'm firm believer in practicing in time controls that are constructive to formulating good techniques.

If I play blitz all the time I start getting lazy & my technique takes a dump.

I think blitz chess is really helpful for intuition you need to build that up so in rapid you make less mistakes

Yes blitz chess can make you play worse but then again it's also super helpful for (some) people notice how (most) or aloot of the really good kids play a mix of bullet,blitz ,and rapid just depend on the person I guess wether or not it's helpful

Leetsak

this site is definitely fishy, threads like this pop up all the time, and it is odd cause everybody noticies, no matter the rating, the same stuff, it is always the same, the situations and patterns described are always the same, you always get the same people who come talk about tilt etc etc, matter of fact is, just dont pay attention to rating and play whatever you're facing, online rating is just a number and doesnt reflect your real skill

BigChessplayer665
Leetsak wrote:

this site is definitely fishy, threads like this pop up all the time, and it is odd cause everybody noticies, no matter the rating, the same stuff, it is always the same, the situations and patterns described are always the same, you always get the same people who come talk about tilt etc etc, matter of fact is, just dont pay attention to rating and play whatever you're facing, online rating is just a number and doesnt reflect your real skill

Lol since the cheating scandal alot of people have been paranoid i think it's t o much drama and gms accusing each other of cheating is part of the cause of it

rating can reflect (some ) skill but it certainly doesn't reflect your full strength at all

It's not like there's not cheaters but it isn't like 50% of the whole site cheat either

Lord_Phan

I checked the op's account and what I found was that

a) He hasn't been reviewing his losses only his wins. You should review why you lost your games.

b) I don't see the games he's referring to. In fact he has hardly been playing against players his own rating the past two days. Was this another day?

c) I see him getting destroyed by a 2000 rated player. I see him falling for a trap that causes him to lose his Queen and resigning at move 10. I see him winning and losing games against higher rated players with normal looking accuracy numbers.

I also see a game where the OP and another player seem to have intentionally played a 0 accuracy game.

I don't understand this.

BigChessplayer665
Lord_Phan wrote:

I checked the op's account and what I found was that

a) He hasn't been reviewing his losses only his wins. You should review why you lost your games.

b) I don't see the games he's referring to. In fact he has hardly been playing against players his own rating the past two days. Was this another day?

c) I see him getting destroyed by a 2000 rated player. I see him falling for a trap that causes him to lose his Queen and resigning at move 10. I see him winning and losing games against higher rated players with normal looking accuracy numbers.

I also see a game where the OP and another player seem to have intentionally played a 0 accuracy game.

I don't understand this.

You have to analyze both loses and wins analyzig only losses is pretty much just as bad as analyzing only wins (only wins is sometimes worse )

Martin_Stahl

https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com

https://www.chess.com/article/view/online-chess-cheating

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-update-june-2024?#FairPlay

The site closed 62,500+ accounts in May for fair play violations and has a full team of staff working on reports along with some automated systems for detection.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/fair-play

That said, discussions of cheating, potential cheating, or cheat detection are not allowed in the general forums. If you would like to discuss join the following club. https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

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