CHEATING
Their account is closed
Whoever it was will be back within a few minutes with a shiny fresh account to cheat again. Rinse and repeat.
It's impossible to get a direct correlation between the new account and the old account. You can get an idea from the account name, email, IP address, but those aren't definitive. Basically new accounts get treated as a new account, and if they start cheating they get closed.
A new account is more likely to be a cheater than an older one, but it's still at low enough levels as to be fine. I do wish Chess.com would introduce additional filter options for your seeks, which would help people avoid cheaters if they really wanted to, like:
- Premium members only - although with free premium trial, not always the best indicator in and of itself
- Minimum age of account - even if it was a bunch of presets, like 30 days, 90 days, 1 year
- Minimum League - so only people Silver League and above, that sort of thing
I dunno if Chess.com is afraid of how those things would affect the playing pool, or whether they can't do additional filters without massively slowing down every game seek unless they introduce some major technical changes to the way game seeks are handled or what. It's just something they've ignored.
The only thing chess.com cares about is the availability of games and people buying memberships. Cheating does not concern them below master level. I've posted about this on the so-called cheating forum which is just a bunch of so-called moderators acting as shills for chess.com saying nothing is cheating except for the most ridiculously obvious cheating. This site is awful for lying about cheating. If you are under 1500 ELO detecting cheaters is virtually impossible.
If they were actually concerned about knowing whether cheating is prevalent they would give a test group of capable players the ability to "smart" cheat at different elo levels and see what they caught. They know the answer would be nothing at low elo, so they don't do such expirements.
Also, chess.com mods are propagandists and authoritarians so this is going to get shutdown soon.
The only thing chess.com cares about is the availability of games and people buying memberships. Cheating does not concern them below master level. I've posted about this on the so-called cheating forum which is just a bunch of so-called moderators acting as shills for chess.com saying nothing is cheating except for the most ridiculously obvious cheating. This site is awful for lying about cheating. If you are under 1500 ELO detecting cheaters is virtually impossible.
If they were actually concerned about knowing whether cheating is prevalent they would give a test group of capable players the ability to "smart" cheat at different elo levels and see what they caught. They know the answer would be nothing at low elo, so they don't do such expirements.
Also, chess.com mods are propagandists and authoritarians so this is going to get shutdown soon.
There's only one moderator in the entire forum and alot actually do know what they are talking about some think cheating is a major issue while others think there is something that needs to be done about it but think a lot less people cheat than some people think
"Also, chess.com mods are propagandists and authoritarians so this is going to get shutdown soon."
Cause your breaking terms of service by taking about cheating talking about cheating in forums is against the rules it either has to be in some form of club or private messaging it helps stem a good chunk of the accusations )
You don't like the rules oh well there are actually good reasons for this
Whoever it was will be back within a few minutes with a shiny fresh account to cheat again. Rinse and repeat.
It's impossible to get a direct correlation between the new account and the old account. You can get an idea from the account name, email, IP address, but those aren't definitive. Basically new accounts get treated as a new account, and if they start cheating they get closed.
A new account is more likely to be a cheater than an older one, but it's still at low enough levels as to be fine. I do wish Chess.com would introduce additional filter options for your seeks seeks so that would help people avoid cheaters if they really wanted to, like:
- Premium members only - although with free premium trial, not always the best indicator in and of itself
- Minimum age of account - even if it was a bunch of presets, like 30 days, 90 days, 1 year
- Minimum League - so only people Silver League and above, that sort of thing
I dunno if Chess.com is afraid of how those things would affect the playing pool, or whether they can't do additional filters without massively slowing down every game seek unless they introduce some major technical changes to the way game seeks are handled or what. It's just something they've ignored.
I think there is an option to play only premium members.
Whoever it was will be back within a few minutes with a shiny fresh account to cheat again. Rinse and repeat.
It's impossible to get a direct correlation between the new account and the old account. You can get an idea from the account name, email, IP address, but those aren't definitive. Basically new accounts get treated as a new account, and if they start cheating they get closed.
A new account is more likely to be a cheater than an older one, but it's still at low enough levels as to be fine. I do wish Chess.com would introduce additional filter options for your seeks seeks so that would help people avoid cheaters if they really wanted to, like:
- Premium members only - although with free premium trial, not always the best indicator in and of itself
- Minimum age of account - even if it was a bunch of presets, like 30 days, 90 days, 1 year
- Minimum League - so only people Silver League and above, that sort of thing
I dunno if Chess.com is afraid of how those things would affect the playing pool, or whether they can't do additional filters without massively slowing down every game seek unless they introduce some major technical changes to the way game seeks are handled or what. It's just something they've ignored.
I think there is an option to play only premium members.
I never saw that but they do tend to more frequently pair paying members with other paying members
There's only one moderator in the entire forum and alot actually do know what they are talking about some think cheating is a major issue while others think there is something that needs to be done about it but think a lot less people cheat than some people think
This is basically how the chess.com cheating propaganda works. They make unsubstantiated claims that "cheating really just isn't as bad as you think just don't worry about it" or "You suck at chess so you must not understand, you imbecile, just get good".
I think online chess.com is the most monolithically toxic eco system I have seen when it comes to propaganda around cheating discussion. They shut down discussion, stick to specific talking points, presumably employ contrarian bots, and just spew doubt and ad hominem attacks.
There's only one moderator in the entire forum and alot actually do know what they are talking about some think cheating is a major issue while others think there is something that needs to be done about it but think a lot less people cheat than some people think
This is basically how the chess.com cheating propaganda works. They make unsubstantiated claims that "cheating really just isn't as bad as you think just don't worry about it" or "You suck at chess so you must not understand, you imbecile, just get good".
I think online chess.com is the most monolithically toxic eco system I have seen when it comes to propaganda around cheating discussion. They shut down discussion, stick to specific talking points, presumably employ contrarian bots, and just spew doubt and ad hominem attacks.
Or vice versa claiming it's a bigger problem than it actually is is also propaganda
Ex:the red scare
The only thing chess.com cares about is the availability of games and people buying memberships. Cheating does not concern them below master level. I've posted about this on the so-called cheating forum which is just a bunch of so-called moderators acting as shills for chess.com saying nothing is cheating except for the most ridiculously obvious cheating. This site is awful for lying about cheating. If you are under 1500 ELO detecting cheaters is virtually impossible.
If they were actually concerned about knowing whether cheating is prevalent they would give a test group of capable players the ability to "smart" cheat at different elo levels and see what they caught. They know the answer would be nothing at low elo, so they don't do such expirements.
Also, chess.com mods are propagandists and authoritarians so this is going to get shutdown soon.
I don't think you're right. I've played four or five people banned for fair play and I'm only a 700.
There's only one moderator in the entire forum and alot actually do know what they are talking about some think cheating is a major issue while others think there is something that needs to be done about it but think a lot less people cheat than some people think
This is basically how the chess.com cheating propaganda works. They make unsubstantiated claims that "cheating really just isn't as bad as you think just don't worry about it" or "You suck at chess so you must not understand, you imbecile, just get good".
I think online chess.com is the most monolithically toxic eco system I have seen when it comes to propaganda around cheating discussion. They shut down discussion, stick to specific talking points, presumably employ contrarian bots, and just spew doubt and ad hominem attacks.
And most people who disagree aren't bots actually they just disagree it's like saying "anyone who disagrees with me is a bot " therefore only my opinion is right which is not a good way to think about it
Or vice versa claiming it's a bigger problem than it actually is is also propaganda
Ex:the red scare
Doubt and ad hominem, I guess include strawman and apparently soviet symathization. I never considered that it's Russian trolls or bots until now, but that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for connecting those dots: BigChessplayer665
The only thing chess.com cares about is the availability of games and people buying memberships. Cheating does not concern them below master level. I've posted about this on the so-called cheating forum which is just a bunch of so-called moderators acting as shills for chess.com saying nothing is cheating except for the most ridiculously obvious cheating. This site is awful for lying about cheating. If you are under 1500 ELO detecting cheaters is virtually impossible.
If they were actually concerned about knowing whether cheating is prevalent they would give a test group of capable players the ability to "smart" cheat at different elo levels and see what they caught. They know the answer would be nothing at low elo, so they don't do such expirements.
Also, chess.com mods are propagandists and authoritarians so this is going to get shutdown soon.
I don't think you're right. I've played four or five people banned for fair play and I'm only a 700.
Most people at your level don't cheat but a few do try not to worry about it even if you get cheated occasionally focus on getting better(even if it requires losing a lot ) maybe you'll start to win more once you start learning how to beaty your opponents just focus on learning from your mistakes
Or vice versa claiming it's a bigger problem than it actually is is also propaganda
Ex:the red scare
Doubt and ad hominem, I guess include strawman and apparently soviet symathization. I never considered that it's Russian trolls or bots until now, but that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for connecting those dots: BigChessplayer665
Yup everyone's who's a "bot" disagrees with you 1.im not russian! 2.im literally using past history for evidence 3. Im not trolling you
What do you have ? Some bogus claim
Most people at your level don't cheat but a few do try not to worry about it even if you get cheated occasionally focus on getting better(even if it requires losing a lot ) maybe you'll start to win more once you start learning how to beaty your opponents just focus on learning from your mistakes
I've explicitly asked you to stop engaging with me on this site before. You are a bully acting in bad faith if you're even a real person. The fact that you are constantly lurking and willing to post a vacuous retort in milliseconds on this forum makes me question whether you are a person or a bot, but do not engage with me.
Most people at your level don't cheat but a few do try not to worry about it even if you get cheated occasionally focus on getting better(even if it requires losing a lot ) maybe you'll start to win more once you start learning how to beaty your opponents just focus on learning from your mistakes
I've explicitly asked you to stop engaging with me on this site before. You are a bully acting in bad faith if you're even a real person. The fact that you are constantly lurking and willing to post a vacuous retort in milliseconds on this forum makes me question whether you are a person or a bot, but do not engage with me.
I wasnt talking to you in that comment though try to at least say that to a comment where I actually commented to your post please
I don't think you're right. I've played four or five people banned for fair play and I'm only a 700.
There was a period a bit over a year ago where you would get rating points back and cheaters were caught. Myself and others in the cheating forum have noted that abruptly stopped, which - considering it was happening every few dozen games or so and now doesn't happen at all indicates they just aren't doing cheat detect effectively anymore at low elo.
I don't think you're right. I've played four or five people banned for fair play and I'm only a 700.
There was a period a bit over a year ago where you would get rating points back and cheaters were caught. Myself and others in the cheating forum have noted that abruptly stopped, which - considering it was happening every few dozen games or so and now doesn't happen at all indicates they just aren't doing cheat detect effectively anymore at low elo.
I only joined on march 20th of this year.