Chess 960 should be called Chess 959

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yguo2014

Chess 960 is called 960 because of 960 possible starting positions. The math is 4x4x5x4x3x1. However, there is a flaw in the math. The flaw is that the 960 starting positions include the standard chess position. Thus, the standard chess position must be removed from the 960 starting positions which is 960-1=959.

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant

chess 960 sounds better though

yguo2014

But it is inaccurate

SacrifycedStoat
But a 960 game can be the starting position
KashmiriCookingOil

It can I've got it before

borovicka75
Your point is true but chess959 would sound slightly stupid.
Kotshmot

The math is correct; Standard position can occur in chess 960.

yguo2014

The point of Fischer Random /Chess 960 is to make opening theory unnecessary. If the standard chess position occurs in Fischer Random, it basically defies the purpose of Fischer Random as then opening theory is necessary.

Bebbington32

but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

landloch

Having to play the standard game about once every thousand games in 960 doesn't seem to be terribly burdensome.

JosephReidNZ

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Kotshmot
yguo2014 wrote:

The point of Fischer Random /Chess 960 is to make opening theory unnecessary. If the standard chess position occurs in Fischer Random, it basically defies the purpose of Fischer Random as then opening theory is necessary.

You're allowed to prepare opening theory for any of the 960 positions.

yguo2014

The starting position is randomized to make standard opening principles unnecessary.

yguo2014
JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Is that even relevant?

yguo2014
Bebbington32 wrote:

but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

So you have to remove it.

Nordlandia

Some tournament also exclude #534 aka mirror position. #518 is standard.

EnCrossiantIsBrilliant
JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Bughouse was made first

Bebbington32
yguo2014 wrote:
Bebbington32 wrote:

but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

So you have to remove it.

not how it works

Bebbington32
yguo2014 wrote:
JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Is that even relevant?

no

EndgameEnthusiast2357

The positions shouldn't have to mirror each other, should be totally random, so really it should be chess 919,681.