Chess is invented in India

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piya_is_my_name
Teachers say this to us in school, so we believe it is true. Can anyone provide some more information?
piya_is_my_name

America as you know it is ~500 years old, so, no. India is where it all started.

president_max
mynameagain wrote:
Teachers say this to us in school, so we believe it is true. Can anyone provide some more information?

My teacher say to me that you changed your flag after your previous thread got locked for racist statements against Indians and now you are trying to incite anti-indian comments here. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/49-48-3-100?page=2

Can you provide more information pretty please?  Thousands of apologies with papadums and lassi on the side.

 

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kindaspongey

A History of chess by H.J.R. Murray
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090911/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review883.pdf
A world of chess
https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/a-world-of-chess/
A History of Chess
http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/2012/12/20/book-notice-yuri-averbakhs-a-history-of-chess.html
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/2770.pdf

president_max

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piya_is_my_name

president_max wrote:

mynameagain wrote:
Teachers say this to us in school, so we believe it is true. Can anyone provide some more information?

My teacher say to me that you changed your flag after your previous thread got locked for racist statements against Indians and now you are trying to incite anti-indian comments here. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/49-48-3-100?page=2

Can you provide more information pretty please?  Thousands of apologies with papadums and lassi on the side.

 

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on that topic: https://m.slashdot.org/story/325199 ... and there are many more. the other thread is locked, because of illfounded accusations of racism (oh, wow, somebody can swallow the truth; pulling the "black card" is so much easier). indians are best chess players, though.

glockdave
That’s because there is tons of time in those call centers and scammer centers
president_max
glockdave wrote:
That’s because there is tons of time in those call centers and scammer centers

this is how it works. Wonder if that is piya ...

Hadron

Chess was invented in India?....HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW......ah....no

'Chaturanga' is the earliest precursor to what we now know as 'Chess'. While it is referenced that they are related, they are not the same game ( by a long stretch), for a start Chaturanga uses only 10 pieces.

As for any claim to India inventing Chaturanga, the earliest documentation can date Chaturanga back to circa 640 A.D, the origin of it is said to be "uncertain"

It is interesting to note that "Fa Xian, a Chinese Buddhist who wrote extensively about his long sojourn in India   at the beginning of the 5th century, does not mention the game (Chaturanga), an indication,  perhaps, that it was not known then.

Chess, as we now know it , began to take shape circa 1475 where Chaturanga pieces where replaced with their modern counter parts and new laws where introduced.

All of this is gleaned from the 1996 "The Oxford Companion to Chess" so you can believe it or believe not.

FIDE's own president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov believes chess came from Outer Space (google it if you don't believe it) and the BBC's Doctor Who have referenced Chess has been invented by the Time Lords of Galifrey.

The long story short is the origins of Chess are a matter for myth and legend

aryamanarora

Chaturanga Is the ancestor of the Persian shataranj, which eventually spread to Europe via the Arab world and became chess as we know it. The words "check" and "check mate" are from the Persian words "śāh" (king) and "śāh māt" (the king is in danger) As for Fa Xian, he probably cared more about Buddhism than chess, don't you think happy.png.

ANOK1

ive yet to find a hindu deity of chess though hinduism has loads of deities so still looking but not one of 25 avatars of vishnu , piya did you realise that Thrace , near greece has a deity dedicated to chess , Caissa , could that near thracian , macedonian alexander who went east even got to india , this in a bc era , have bought chess to india perhaps ? as this predates chattaranga mentions by at least 600 years

ANOK1

Vida's Poem ,

Tum geminae velut extremis in cornibus arces
hinc atque hinc altis stant propugnacula muris,
quae dorso immanes gestant in bella Elephanti.

"Then twin, as if at the ends, citadels in the corners,
here and here stand ramparts with high walls,
which, immense, are carried into war on the back by elephants."

glockdave
Kumar, your teachers are lying! I’m an the sole creator of the universe, therefore chess.
mgx9600

The funny thing about India is that many groups of people come and go through that piece of land.  You may be surprised that today's Indians may be very different than those in the past.  Ask your teacher about this; it'll open up a whole can of worms !

 

aryamanarora

Not really, genetic studies have shown that the Indus Valley Civilization's Indians are basically the same as modern Indians with some minor Indo-Aryan and Austronesians influence. Even "Indo-Aryans" and "Dravidian" are very similar genetically.

aryamanarora

@ANOK1 Caissa was invented by Italians during the Renaissance.

Pulpofeira

What we call chess was invented in Spain. Hispania! Hispania waves the rules!

president_max
Pulpofeira wrote:

What we call chess was invented in Spain. Hispania! Hispania waves the rules!

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Pulpofeira

Wheeee!

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