I also saw that the friar said that they found Paul Morphy dead in a bathtub with five pair of women shoes around him. I was under the belief that Morphy died of a heart attack. There was other stuff that they could put into the movie and not have ended so abruptly.
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They have lost a bit less than US$ 16 millions so far.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_Sacrifice
I have read this in a review:
"The movie unfortunately succumbs to the whole romantic fantasy that playing chess leads to insanity. It’s true that chess champions have gone crazy in the past, but others have been well-adjusted people. One of Fischer’s handlers, Fr. Bill Lombardy (Peter Sarsgaard) even repeats the discredited story that 19th-century master Paul Morphy committed suicide surrounded by women’s shoes. (Morphy died of a stroke in his bathtub, with only his own shoes nearby.)"
Source: http://www.fwweekly.com/2015/09/25/bonus-film-reviews/
They did have about three good ROCK pieces in the movie.
@ Chess_is_my_Heaven
I went to that link and I enjoyed it. Thanks
I chose not to say so much about what was in the film as I didn't want to ruin it for the ones that might see it in a theater.
They have lost a bit less than US$ 16 millions so far.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_Sacrifice
Yes, a real non-blockbuster to be sure. Not sure where they got the info on Wikipedia (they claim Box Office Mojo) but this film has only made $2.3 million (according to Box Office Mojo http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=pawnsacrifice.htm ) as of Oct 12.
A far cry from the blockbuster a certain [unnamed] poster here clamined would happen, along with the non-existent "chess resurgence" that [unnamed] poster claimed woould happen.
What a shame.
It´s here Rsava:
| Domestic: | $2,332,870 | 75.5% |
| + Foreign: | $756,467 | 24.5% |
| = Worldwide: | $3,089,337 | |
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=pawnsacrifice.htm
Ah, thanks. Did not even look there, I only noticed the top of the page. Did not realize it had any foreign release yet, thought that was coming later. And that was where I thought it would make at least decent money. Apparently not.
Seeing the movie's great domestic success, I'd say the sequel should be called "For no compensation" ...
One of Fischer’s handlers, Fr. Bill Lombardy (Peter Sarsgaard) even repeats the discredited story that 19th-century master Paul Morphy committed suicide surrounded by women’s shoes.
That Morphy-and-shoes bulls***t in all its hideous permutations should have been laid to rest a decade ago: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fun.html
Lacing a supposedly historical film with long-discredited garbage just to spice things up? Hollywood, tell me it ain't so!
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One of Fischer’s handlers, Fr. Bill Lombardy (Peter Sarsgaard) even repeats the discredited story that 19th-century master Paul Morphy committed suicide surrounded by women’s shoes.
That Morphy-and-shoes bulls***t in all its hideous permutations should have been laid to rest a decade ago: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fun.html
Lacing a supposedly historical film with long-discredited garbage just to spice things up? Hollywood, tell me it ain't so!
I thought the movie was bad. Toby Maguire as Fischer? Are you kidding me? Maybe a 12 year old Fischer...
With that said, I found the remark about Morphy to be historically accurate. Not in the sense that it's what actually happened, but in the sense that in the '60s (and a long time before and after that) it was actually very commonly believed about Morphy. Additionally, way back in the day, it was generally accepted by the layperson that there was a definite correlation between chess and mental illness.
So in truth, it would've been historically inaccurate for a character in the movie to have said anything else, because people at that time period wouldn't be up to date with 21st century thinking.
Dissatisfied with FISCHERS life and now the movie.
Not dissatisfied with his chess playing though.
DENVER
- nothing best said about the "pawn" movie.
Here is one of the last public appearances of the great, ad late,
"Bobby" ( Robert ) Fischer. Morning coffe with Bobby.
Island documentary from around year 2005 ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvsfpxy8FZE
Thanks for the link . . .
DENVER
Sounds like the movie "JFK" where those of us who were alive during the events were made sick by the charlatans and b.s.'ers of the time being made to look like heroes. I guess that's how b.s. stories get established among so many believers in the generations after something happened.
I'm not interested, if you ask me. "Against The World" and "Anything To Win" are enough for me, if you ask me. Prince William would have been the better actor in Pawn Sacrifice, physically, if you ask me.
Seriously, Fischer was a famous person - probably worldwide - in 1972 but suddenly when to oblivion. He remained a famous figure in chess but not all chess players are movie-goers. And outside of chess, don't expect him to be well-known. 1972 was a long time.
Last Friday I went to RENO and I looked for the movie but it was already pulled out for "lack.of attendence" said the manager of a center with 12 theaters.
I got home and looked for it in Sonoma county and it was only being shown at a small theater in Santa Rosa. All the other movie houses had pulled it.
I went today at a matinee and there was a total of 5 people. I have read the books about Fischer and I didn't expect anything new.
With my kiddy pack in hand I sat for 1 hour 54 minutes.
I found it a sad Bobbie Fischer movie, seldom laughing or smiling even when he was shown as a young boy.. I felt sorry for him.
It shows him arranging to lose his virginity.
It only shows scenes of five games against Spasky.
Would I see it again?Probably but not on purpose.
IMHO